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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-03 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2770 ]


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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-03 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
With me it's more that the story sort of gets out of hand, requires more chapters than I intended to, and I hardly have the courage to write anymore. And then eventually I get into a fandom that holds my interest more. I think I'll just be trying for one-shots more now.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
This is exactly why I don't get angry with WIPs, I simply avoid them until they are complete.

Personally I don't blame the authors, contrary to a few others. But I just make it a rule never to read WIPs.

This is a double-edged sword, though, because this is why WIP authors who complain about lack of kudos and reviews do not get any sympathy from me. Seriously, what do you want from me? If you want kudos, then post completed fics! If not, then no kudos or comments until completion!

Because authors who WANT their readers to invest their limited free time into reading their fics are entering into an unwritten contract to complete said story that readers have emotionally invested into in exchange. So they can be personally blamed if the story is never completed afterwards. You cannot have both: lack of personal blame for non-completion and kudos on incomplete stories. You need to choose.

And you need to understand that a lot of other writers will make a different choice from yours. Or want both positives with none of the negative of these two choices... Which confuses the average reader.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-03 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"If you want kudos, then post completed fics! If not, then no kudos or comments until completion!"

To be honest, that IS a tricky one. I've tried posting many chapters at once and the funny thing is you'll get LESS kudos that way. Not sure why, but I think there's this psychology where readers do it to encourage updates - so yeah that makes things even more tricky for those that do thrive on feedback.

"Because authors who WANT their readers to invest their limited free time into reading their fics are entering into an unwritten contract to complete said story that readers have emotionally invested into in exchange. So they can be personally blamed if the story is never completed afterwards. You cannot have both: lack of personal blame for non-completion and kudos on incomplete stories."

I think that's a dangerous assumption to make, though? I wouldn't hold anyone to an unwritten contract unless they at least verbally expressed this is how they felt about it.

Personally I just post new chapters because I'm excited they got done and want to show them to the world. I've been on the other end , too, where I adored a fic that was just abandoned, but it happens, you know.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, that IS a tricky one. I've tried posting many chapters at once and the funny thing is you'll get LESS kudos that way.

I think the best thing to do, honestly, is to completely finish a long fic and then serialize it.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-04 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably, yes, but as I've seen in this thread and similar ones, a lot of fanfic writers sort of thrive on encouragement to keep going. Which makes that setup difficult. I sort of see it working for writers who already had other fics in that fandom that were well-received, or people who do not care about feedback much.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-08-04 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I have both problems, actually (which is why these days I don't post fic until it's at least half-completed...which is difficult for me because I am one of those "thrive on feedback" kind of writers).

No matter how simple the idea I start with, the planning/details soon get way out of hand and I'm perpetually worried it's either too long or too short, so I'm never quite sure what to do with it after the first few chapters.

My other problem is right now, I have some WIPs that I want to take down because I know I'm never going to finish them...but then, I also know there are some WIPs which I like to reread despite knowing they're abandoned (sometimes I like to 'fill in my own ending' in my head), so I don't want to take them down in case someone else out there likes reading those fics. *le shrug*
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I've never taken something down - but there's stuff from my early fanfic days that got lost, which is sort of sad.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-08-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, that sucks. Maybe try using the Internet Archive or a WayBack machine to find old webpages, if you ever put it online?

I'm...kind of glad that most of my earliest stuff is lost. *shudders* I was writing about drugs, sex, and murder when I was 12, so you can imagine just how "well" those fics were written. :P