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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-09 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2776 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2776 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
OP wrote "sweetly abuse" so I think the misconception here is yours. Much like the idea a jealous, possessive lover to whatever extent they're comfortable with is abusive to you but extremely flattering to many other women. And they still have a right to want a SO fitted to their tastes and complain when they can't get one.

It wouldn't surprise me if those comments were from the same few persons. Regardless, I think now that she's vented OP should definitely dump him and find herself someone better, but I for one am still sympathetic, and I'm not the only one in the thread.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
The word "abuse" still gets misconstrued by men and the general public though. Women shouldn't have to censor their desires, but assholes still exist and conflate everything and mercilessly generalize all women. OP has a right to vent, just like I have a right to tell her to fuck off. Perhaps I should've just said that in the first place, because your main issue with me seems to stem from telling her to shut up. Could have saved the both of us a lot of time.

Eh, if you're familiar with FS then these comments are par for the course here. I doubt they're from the same few persons. Still, seems like a majority have more sympathy for her boyfriend's plight than hers.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
Of course betas would sympathize with betas.

Snarky comments aside, the word "abuse" still gets misconstrued by men and the general public though because sjws and radfems call "abuse" what goes on in 50 shades of Grey and other such women-oriented romance, even though it's the fantasy of an adult woman who never puts her heroine through ****actual**** suffering or danger.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
I was under the impression this place was populated mostly by women. I was surprised you thought I was a dude at first but judging by my behavior earlier, I understand why you did. I'm sorry for acting like a tool and making this into a bigger thing than it is. But it's hard being a not-submissive female in a world that just automatically shoves women into the submissive category.

I haven't read 50 Shades, but it seems pretty abusive from what I can tell. It romanticizes a relationship in which the main character constantly tells her lover to stop while he goes ahead and does it anyway. That's not a proper BDSM relationship, yet the general public thinks otherwise due to the popularity of the series.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
There's been many a comment saying not every commenter here is female.

5SOG doesn't present itself as a manual to BDSM and the general public is wrong to take it that way.

Weren't you the one who spoke earlier about rape fantasies? Women's rape fantasies center around the idea of a man they want not stopping when they say "no" because thy don't really want him to stop anyway. There's been many an article on this and calling them "rape" fantasies is entirely misleading. 5SOG is a book about that, and women have a right to those desires especially since quite often it's what best gets them off.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
...oh. So you're not a feminist. You're an MRA.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-10 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
>side with women and what they enjoy
>somehow that makes them an MRA

I don't understand this logic.