[ SECRET POST #336 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

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Notes:

Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

Last day to submit for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
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Comments

[kefanii.livejournal.com]

But Elena is nothing like most of the cute healer girls. She's fucking awesome. Besides, Ryudo wants to be with both Millenia and Elena. You are allowed to dislike the healer girl cliche. But don't drag Elena into that just because she wear white! She's good in combat and damn awesome.

I don't get the whole INSTANT BIAS thing. I understand being fed up with the cliche, I really, really do. But if I stuck to that, characters like Fina from Skies of Arcadia and Elena from Grandia II that reinvent the wheel would never get the credit they deserve.

You apparently like JRPGs. Congrats! Now suck it up and judge all the characters by their REAL qualities, not by whether or not they have a white cloak and an affinity for Cure.

[(Anonymous)]

*Sigh*

I think these characters all have *very* similar personalities, actually. I don't dislike them just because they are healers.

It's difficult to explain, but a lot of it has to do with role. It's common for the female lead to be 'special' in some way - she's a princess, she's got some kind of special power or other - and while the story should be about her because her role is so pivotal, she ends up being an object for the protagonist to cart around as *he* saves the world - and she never has much of a problem with this. (Alternately, she could be the main character's best friend from way back, and she basically does nothing besides follow him around).

Good exception to illustrate my point: Marle from Chrono Cross is a healer character and the main character's love interest. I don't think she fits the type at all - though her more active role in the storyline could be explained by Chrono's status as a silent protagonist. Kidd from Chrono Cross is the same way, and Lyon from Suikoden V is also very prominent. The other reasons I like Kidd and Lyon is that they have PASTS. So often in RPGS the male protagonist has a history of some sort that relates to the plot, but the girl has no past except as is relevant to the hero.)

Though I will admit it's been years since I've played Grandia II. I may be off about Elena.

[shinai.livejournal.com]

It's difficult to explain, but a lot of it has to do with role. It's common for the female lead to be 'special' in some way - she's a princess, she's got some kind of special power or other - and while the story should be about her because her role is so pivotal, she ends up being an object for the protagonist to cart around as *he* saves the world - and she never has much of a problem with this. (Alternately, she could be the main character's best friend from way back, and she basically does nothing besides follow him around).

This sounds like the infamous "canon-sue."

And as far as Elena is concerned - I agree wholeheartedly.