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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-13 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2780 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2780 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This. That argument makes literally zero sense to me. I can identify with characters who aren't my gender/sexuality/race/species/whatever because they have traits I can understand and empathize with regardless of our differences.

To be honest, I think anyone who can't identify with characters who aren't exactly like them has issues they need to address.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because you're versatile doesn't mean everyone else is just "stuck up".

Yes, the general human experience is pretty much the same across every group of people but once we get to love and lovemaking, gender and sexuality make a HUGE difference. Don't pretend it doesn't, we're far from living in a progressive hippie wonderland where everyone is genderless and pansexual.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm bi, actually, and I've dated men and women. There's much less of a difference than you think.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-14 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT made no such claim. Honestly, some of the antis in this bit of the thread are not so much jumping to conclusions as being fired out of cannons at conclusions.

Why so defensive? If you are secure in your own identity and turn-ons, all power to you. Just don't forget, as oddly you are keen to accuse others of doing, that we are all different.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-08-14 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
If it's a porn or romance thing, and someone needs to self-insert or intensely relate or whatever, I don't think it's so much issues as it is just getting what they want out of it. Doesn't sound bad to me.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Porn I can understand, because what turns people on is very individual. But just romance? See, I don't get that either.

I'm not going to magically be able to relate to a character just by virtue of their being female. Not all women are alike, and there are plenty of female characters I can't relate to at all. There are also plenty of male characters I can relate to easily. The idea that someone can identify with any and all characters of one sex and not with any of the other just doesn't make any sense.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-08-14 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Not all storytelling kinks are sexual, and they're in romance too (as well as every other genre). Think of it as mental porn, where your brain gets high off certain romance cliches and tropes and character types. It's all preference, so of course it's not going to make sense to you if you don't prefer the same things.

For instance, I do not self-insert or need main characters justlikemeeee~ either, because I just want to read some raw emotion and fucking that too. I want to feel for the characters. So I'm not going to get why someone else gets a kick out of seeing themselves in the characters other than that they just do.