[ SECRET POST #2787 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2787 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

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Yeah, I think for the most part, DA2 was very well done as a character drama, but frankly, none of the characters are really bad enough people to make the game mechanics seamlessly believable. I kind of don't really think Anders would have hated Fenris enough to approve of selling him out like that - especially since he too hates "slavery". And he never expressed anything but sympathy for the plight of the elves. But for the mechanics to really be a game, every decision ought to have some characters who approve and some who don't, and Anders is the only one in the party who actively hates Fenris as a person, so there's that.

For all the excellent characters you have (and I do think they are ALL excellent), none are really "evil" or at least sadistic. Morally grey at best, but all are well-meaning. When Hawke has the option to make really horrible choices, this doesn't really reflect. The only alternative would be to really justify a reason why Fenris should have to go back to Danarius - maybe he's dangerous, or Danarius threatens to kill someone if they don't comply, etc., but it's really a pure evil thing, how it's presented. And there are just no evil companions to admire you, so the next best thing?

[darkmanifest]

Exactly, it's great drama (that's why I'm glad it was there) that unfortunately conflicts with the mechanics. Unlike the situation with, say, you give up Isabela to save a whole city from invasion and also because she had betrayed you badly once already, giving up Fenris has no justification that anybody can logically get behind, not even Anders on the bad side of crazy. Like you said, there needed to be something more going on there than just Hawke wanting to avoid a small fight or just not liking Fenris, but I don't know what. And that's true, about DA2's companions - in DA:O, your reward for selling slaves is the evidence against Loghain you came for without having to risk your life for it, and Morrigan and Sten approve because they're all about getting closer to ending the Blight as efficiently as possible. Nobody in DA2 has cold pragmatism like that, not even Isabela and Varric. So it makes some of the coldly pragmatic decisions Hawke makes seem a little empty, there just to be there.

Kind of like what happened with Orsino at the end, since Meredith goes crazy whether you go with templars or mages, Orsino has to do the same to balance it out, even though there's no good character reason for it.