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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-21 07:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2788 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2788 ⌋

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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-08-21 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I know an artist has to eat but you don't do that to your readership. It's unprofessional. Not only does it turn off current readers but future readers as well.

I also side eye webcomic artists who have less than ten pages up but have merchandise by the truckful all set up and ready to go. The story hasn't even started and they are already pushing Zazzle merch down the readers' throats. That tells me they are less about the story and more about sell.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-08-22 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
out of curiosity, what about like "bonus chapters" that you need to pay for that aren't part of the plot?

Though I definitely agree with you about merchandise, some of the stuff I've seen is just kind of crass.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-08-22 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way about bonus chapters. Now, if you were printing out your comics in book form and put in bonus chapters as incentive to buy the print addition, I can see it because you are buying the book in a different format.

Imagine it this way, say you are watching a series on network television. The network shows every episode except for the last couple and says, "If you want to know what happens, you have to pay." You would think this is a unfair. However, if they showed all the episodes with the complete storyline and then put out a dvd with bonus features like mini episodes, you would be perfectly fine with that. Because it's a different format and the mini episodes feel like a bonus thank you for buying the DVD. You aren't holding the audience hostage saying, "If you want to find out what happens you gotta pay." But, "Thanks for buying the book. Here's a treat for doing so."

Don't make your online readership pay for something that was up to that point free. You will only anger them.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-08-22 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, the "pay to see the end" thing is a dick move, I agree.

And I can see how publishing and adding goodies is a different thing, and probably wouldn't annoy people. But the situation I was going for was more... idk, something that is genuinely peripheral to the main story, yet happens in the world. Say, giving a backstory chapter to a side character, which has no influence on the plot nor impacts the main story, but is its own little story. Would you still consider it holding the audience hostage, since it doesn't impact their enjoyment of the main story?

Or, out of curiosity, I've seen webcomics that offer high-quality downloads of chapters zipped for a small payment (while the chapter itself appears online for free, as usual). How do you feel about that?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-22 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not really a fair comparison though, because there's already a system set in place to pay for television. It's why not every show stays on the air, because if a show doesn't appear to be profitable (either through adverts or merchandising) then it will be taken off the air, and in many cases that means you WON'T know how it ends unless the creator decides to take it to another company. Heck, there has been television that did exactly the same thing you are opposed to webcomics doing, there have been kickstarters to create movies or extra episodes because without proof of backing from fans, companies won't pick it up.

Webcomics are giving you the opportunity to see if you like content before you have to pay. While the "I only give this chapter to paid readers" thing may suck, it may be the only way some webcomic artists can make money off the venture. A lot of people won't pay for "extras" but they will pay to keep the main content going.