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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-21 07:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2788 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2788 ⌋

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it's time for a rant! (gs4 spoilers) tl;dr

(Anonymous) 2014-08-22 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I actually started replaying that game a few days ago to see if I think it's any better the second time. It's not. Whatever you're rewrite is, it has to be better than this. And don't worry if you get facts wrong or things don't make sense; obviously the developers didn't care when they made the game. This is the game that has the case where no one questions the idea that a frail 14-year old kid could fire a gun that could dislocate someone's arm.

Ugh, this game. It was such a huge disappointment to me on so many levels. It completely ruined the character of Phoenix, imo. I don't mind the fact that Phoenix lost his badge because that could make for a good story, but the way he tricked Apollo into using FORGED EVIDENCE in the first case, after lost his badge for the exact same reason, just completely ruined the character for me. And then there's the whole jury thing. Despite the fact that juries are supposed to be unbiased, he allows the defense lawyer's mother (and the wife of one of the killer's victims) to be on it, as well as manipulating everyone by showing them secret film footage before the actual trial. Yet somehow he gets a free pass and is treated like a hero for doing this. And the question of how a disbarred lawyer is suddenly able to drastically change the entire legal system and play a role in the case by traveling through time/whatever the fuck he did is left unanswered.

The final part of the last case was so ridiculously anticlimactic. Kristoph's motive was complete shit, which was disappointing since there was so much buildup. DD coming out and revealing the meaning of black psyche locks just raises more questions that the developers are most likely not going to answer. And the whole jury thing was just...bleh. Every Phoenix Wright game stresses the importance of decisive evidence. Part of the fun is proving, beyond a shadow of doubt, who the real killer is. Well, there is no "decisive" evidence in 4-4, but that's ok apparently, because the power of the human heart is on our side! Ugh. It was a smart decision to never mention this debacle in DD.

I felt like the game had a lot of wasted potential. I liked the idea of a friendly prosecutor at first, but the more I played the more I realized that it failed in execution. Without the antagonism, there is no real sense of tension in court. It's boring. They could have kept the "friendly prosecutor" idea but have him be suspicious of Apollo at first since he had his brother locked up (and was working with the ex-attorney who he exposed seven years ago). Or something, idk. But Klavier's development/depth was...lacking. It would have been nice to see him interact with Kristoph more, or get an idea about the relationship between the two of them. As it stands now, he's bland. Nice, but bland.

And Apollo...poor guy. It really says something that he gets more development/depth in DD, where he shares the spotlight with two other lawyers, than in his own game. He basically exists just to be a pawn for Phoenix.

Ok, well that went on longer than I expected. So, um, have fun with your rewrite, I guess? If you get to it. But like some of the other anons are saying, you can't just complain about the legwork. If you want to research, Google is your friend. And like I said before, don't worry about making sure everything is "accurate." It's a fanfic, first of all, and a rewrite. You can change some things around if you don't like them.