[ SECRET POST #2788 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2788 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

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[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

I know some people have friends that beta read their fics, but I think it's more common to just write on your own. Most people don't have "fact checkers" and "a helper with plot". If you want to write then you gotta do the legwork yourself, too. There's nothing stopping you, is there? So don't feel sad, just get to work and write the fic you want!

[(Anonymous)]

But... bitter Ema is the best character in AA4 though! She's the best part of the entire game! I understand why you feel bad for her but I simply can't support this, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate AJ with a passion, but even I admit that Ema was awesome in it. She had a distinct personality this time around, instead of being Perky Assistant #2.

[(Anonymous)]

At first I was ~ yay, Ace Attorney secret!

Then I was ~ wtf this scret is lame.

You want to re-write the game, but you don't want to do any of the work?

You haven't even started yet and you've already given up?

You don't know anyone in the fandom despite it being one of the most active fandoms possible for a game that age, and famously friendly?

Seriously, if you want to drum up interest in this it would be ridiculously easy. Not liking HoboPhoenix is not a minority view. Even less the thing about Ema not passing her exam.

This secret makes me think you are a moaner, not a doer. Even if I saw your completed work, I'd give it a miss, with this attitude.

[(Anonymous)]

+1. I sympathize with wanting to do something that seems like it would require more work than you're willing or able to do, but something about the tone of this one just grates.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Just to re-write the Ema part so that she passed her exams would be quite easy. There are a dozen conversations, tops, that mention it, and changing her from a detective to forensics wouldn't be that hard, without changing much else. She already does that business with the shoe prints in the game as it is.

That the OP hasn't even done this part yet makes me think they're not really interested in doing any of it.

A journey of a hundred miles begins with a single step, secret maker! Take that first step or else you just go nowhere.

[(Anonymous)]

If this secret came out upon first playthrough I'd agree but when I went back and replayed the game I ended up loving the plot and Hobo Phoenix. I think I just didn't like it the first time because it felt "different" but now it's one of my favorites.

[(Anonymous)]

Know what, OP?

I come up with my own plots.

I fact check my own stuff. There's this awesome thing called the Internet. It lets you look up lots of cool things!

What this sounds like is.. you want it, but you're not invested enough to put forth any real effort. You'd rather delegate everything to others.

And that's not how writing fanfic works. Sorry. Collaboration =/= Do everything for you.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure why there's so much negativity towards this secret, but I wish you'd do it OP! You probably wouldn't even need all the extra help you think you need, just because of sites like Court-Records and Wikis and such.

I'm not a fan of Hobo Phoenix either, so I would definitely read a fic where it never happened.

[(Anonymous)]

personally, it's the whole "who would help me?" thing that got my goat. like, hi there, all the rest of us do the research and plotting and writing ourselves, and here you are, coming in like "hohohohoho why can't i just employ some sad fucks to do this shit for me and then put my name on it! hohohohoho"

like, fuck off

it's time for a rant! (gs4 spoilers) tl;dr

[(Anonymous)]

I actually started replaying that game a few days ago to see if I think it's any better the second time. It's not. Whatever you're rewrite is, it has to be better than this. And don't worry if you get facts wrong or things don't make sense; obviously the developers didn't care when they made the game. This is the game that has the case where no one questions the idea that a frail 14-year old kid could fire a gun that could dislocate someone's arm.

Ugh, this game. It was such a huge disappointment to me on so many levels. It completely ruined the character of Phoenix, imo. I don't mind the fact that Phoenix lost his badge because that could make for a good story, but the way he tricked Apollo into using FORGED EVIDENCE in the first case, after lost his badge for the exact same reason, just completely ruined the character for me. And then there's the whole jury thing. Despite the fact that juries are supposed to be unbiased, he allows the defense lawyer's mother (and the wife of one of the killer's victims) to be on it, as well as manipulating everyone by showing them secret film footage before the actual trial. Yet somehow he gets a free pass and is treated like a hero for doing this. And the question of how a disbarred lawyer is suddenly able to drastically change the entire legal system and play a role in the case by traveling through time/whatever the fuck he did is left unanswered.

The final part of the last case was so ridiculously anticlimactic. Kristoph's motive was complete shit, which was disappointing since there was so much buildup. DD coming out and revealing the meaning of black psyche locks just raises more questions that the developers are most likely not going to answer. And the whole jury thing was just...bleh. Every Phoenix Wright game stresses the importance of decisive evidence. Part of the fun is proving, beyond a shadow of doubt, who the real killer is. Well, there is no "decisive" evidence in 4-4, but that's ok apparently, because the power of the human heart is on our side! Ugh. It was a smart decision to never mention this debacle in DD.

I felt like the game had a lot of wasted potential. I liked the idea of a friendly prosecutor at first, but the more I played the more I realized that it failed in execution. Without the antagonism, there is no real sense of tension in court. It's boring. They could have kept the "friendly prosecutor" idea but have him be suspicious of Apollo at first since he had his brother locked up (and was working with the ex-attorney who he exposed seven years ago). Or something, idk. But Klavier's development/depth was...lacking. It would have been nice to see him interact with Kristoph more, or get an idea about the relationship between the two of them. As it stands now, he's bland. Nice, but bland.

And Apollo...poor guy. It really says something that he gets more development/depth in DD, where he shares the spotlight with two other lawyers, than in his own game. He basically exists just to be a pawn for Phoenix.

Ok, well that went on longer than I expected. So, um, have fun with your rewrite, I guess? If you get to it. But like some of the other anons are saying, you can't just complain about the legwork. If you want to research, Google is your friend. And like I said before, don't worry about making sure everything is "accurate." It's a fanfic, first of all, and a rewrite. You can change some things around if you don't like them.