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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-23 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

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Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Being in a relationship is not a deed of ownership. It's not very nice to cheat on someone, but 1. we do not know the full circumstances of the relationship, ir why exactly she felt the need to cheat. We don't know if she was happy and if the man in question deserved he fidelity. 2. worst case scenario and he was a perfect partner and did not deserve to be cheated on then he's not the only person to be on the bad end of infidelity and we do see anyone else threatening to rape any of the other women. This is exclusively because she is a woman daring to encroach on their boys only industry.
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Re: Question:

[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-08-23 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You've got to admit, it does lend a tinge of hypocrisy to her statements that cheating on someone is equivalent to raping them.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. There are some cases where cheating IS excusable. Rape generally not. Her being wrong about how bad cheating is does not excuse or explain the hate
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Re: Question:

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-08-23 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you really excusing fidelity?

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
INfidelity?
Yes. I am. In some very specific cases you can cheat on abuseive or unappreciative or generally scummy guys if the possibility of happiness comes along. A long term relationship is not a promise for a woman to be someone's property.
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Re: Question:

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-08-23 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no evidence to him being abusive though.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
And I'm not saying he definitely was abusive. I'm just suggesting we don't know what their relationship was like, or why she chose to do what she did.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't even have a sliver of evidence, no mention, no nothing that he was abusive. Just a little hint? Accusing people of a crime without evidence just because you feel like it counts as a criminal offence almost everywhere. Guess what? Some people don't need a better reason to cheat other than "damn, that person is hot" and going aroung accusing the SO with made up shit just to get an excuse for the cheater is fucking bullshit.

And "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." is a grade A tinhatter argument.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
No. You can DUMP unappreciative/scummy guys on their ass if the chance for happiness comes along. If a guy is that unappreciative and scummy, and you find another guy who is so much better than him, you should be capable of growing a spine and saying "okay, stop, let's wait until tomorrow, I need to dump this asshole first."

And if a guy is abusive, then cheating on him is actually really dangerous, and you definitely need to find a way to leave him so you can THEN get your happiness without risking having him catch you cheating and then beating the shit out of you or killing you.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"you should be capable of growing a spine"
Someone doesn't know how abuse or abusers work, do they?
Learn or fuck off. Don't bring me your victim blaming bullshit.
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Re: Question:

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-08-23 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You're advocating cheating. You're the victim blamer.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing I said indicated, or should be read as indicating, that the reaction is in any way justified. In fact, I would think talking about how the Internet is dumb is kind of an indication that I think the reaction is unjustified and stupid. I don't think that Quinn did nothing wrong but the reaction is wildly disproportionate to anything that anyone did and has everything to do with the Internet being the Internet and video game culture being video game culture and both being full of fucking awful misogynists.

Seriously, I have no fucking idea how you could read my post and say to me that I'm justifying rape threats. What the fuck that I said made you think that?

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Your post had the general feeling of excusing negative reactions to her on the grounds of "she cheated"
In the light of what those negative reactions actually are in this case, you can see why I disapprove of your sentiment.

Re: Question:

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, and if she were a guy I doubt you'd be making the same excuses. Cheating IS wrong. Guess what? Want to fuck around? Dump your partner. Being in a monogamous relationship means you make a promise that you will be faithful. No one is forcing you to be in one. It's not like it was an arranged marriage or something. I despise people who think it's okay to cheat. It's such a shitty selfish thing to do to someone.

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
She also cheated on the guy with five other guys so...