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⌈ Secret Post #2802 ⌋

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I haven't come across what you're talking about, but I do like fics that are a more realistic exploration of how Muggleborns would probably behave at Hogwarts and after. My daughter is eleven right now; I have a really hard time believing that she'd be utterly fine with leaving all our technology and everything else behind to go wear a Victorian frock coat and write with quills. I mean, magic is cool and the magical world is cool, and she'd have plenty to occupy her, but I can see her missing a lot about the convenience and efficiency of the Muggle world, not to mention that she's already lived in that world for more than a decade.

I think the fic I've read that best addresses this is In Loco Parentis with Hermione as the POV character.

That's basically what these posts are. Little blurbs highlighting the massive culture shock that's never really acknowledged in the books except to talk abot how neat and quirky everything is, and envisioning all the Muggleborn kids who've been thrown into this world they know nothing about bonding with each other over technology and pop culture knowledge that they collectively remember but nobody else here does.

Exactly. Yeah, some of them can get a little obnoxious, but mostly I like them because it always bugged me that Muggleborn kids seem to entirely give up their roots as soon as they enter the wizarding world. Yeah, you can talk to someone in a fireplace and that's cool, but you know what's more cool? Cell phones, where you can lounge in a comfy chair and chat for an hour or three without having to stick your head in a fire.

I would love to see a fic that addresses the fact that the Wizarding World's stubborn isolationism has caused them to get completely left behind by muggles in almost every practical way.

Yes! Yes!

I rec just such a fic below thread; in fact, your comment is pretty much the entire thesis of the fic, with the fact that having Muggleborn kids reject their Muggleness is a deliberate thing the wizarding world is cultivating. It's a great fic.

There are a few HP fics with that title. My guess is it's this one? I've not read HP in years, but that idea sounds interesting, so I'd like to check it out.

Tbf, the books take place in the nineties, and most 90s era 11-17 year olds probably wouldn't have had much access to cellphones; even if they had, those cellphones wouldn't have had anything resembling the features cellphones do now. They'd basically be regular cordless phones, which are fine and all, but Floo at that time would've looked like face-calling/Skype in comparison. Definitely cooler.

I admit that the 90s setting is what helps me suspend disbelief about Muggleborns being willing to give up the culture for Hogwarts. I mean there are plenty of things people can't imagine doing without now, but a lot of those things just didn't exist - or weren't nearly as easily accessible as they are now - back then. Wifi certainly didn't. Internet in the early nineties was what, a handful of Geocities webpages? TV and video games would probably have been what I'd miss the most, but idk, I think I'd have been okay missing a few episodes of Digimon to go to Hogwarts...

Yes, this. Dean also seems to keep following his football team.

Our view is probably also affected by the fact that the Muggleborn/ raised perspectives we see most closely are those of Harry, who was never allowed computer games or to watch what he wanted on telly, and Hermione, who would rather have been reading an educational book anyway (and I suspect had parents with firm views on how much access their child should have to popular culture).

Me too! I'd also love to see a scenario where a muggleborn shows up, spends some time in the wizarding world, says nope, and then goes back to the muggle one.

Really, I've never understood the allure of the wizarding world and why so many people (in universe and in fandom) were so enamored by it. It's a really backward place in many, many ways. Even without the cool stuff of today, the muggle world has just been loads better for a long, long time in terms of science, technology, and giving a crap about a whole host of things in life other than magic. Seriously, there's no indication anyone in that world has more than an elementary-level education in anything other than magic and that's just sad.

It's not about being ~lmao cooler~, at least not with most of them. As muggleborns in Hogwarts, the characters are tossed into a world with unknown rules and an unknown culture, so of course there are going to be moments of them bonding over the things they do know.

Besides, a lot of the wizarding-world-only characters do have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to 'their' culture.

Yeah, I guess I don't get the hostility. Muggleborns are thrown willy nilly into a new world, new culture, with NO support and they're an underclass. Of course they're gonna bond over their shared experiences.

Ah. I would probably like some of those posts then. LOL Thanks for the explanation.

That fic sounded interesting...until I saw H/D. :/

http://archiveofourown.org/works/109558/chapters/151674

Here's the link to the story; I don't think it's the one you were looking at; there's apparently four million fics titled that on AO3. If I'd realized that I'd just have linked.

The story has a couple of pairings listed but that's not the focus of the story at all. Even if you hate both the ships listed, I think you might enjoy the story because Harry/Hermione is a one-off thing that doesn't really work and Harry/Snape is never really explained in detail because Hermione is on the outside of the relationship.

Here's my really detailed rec of the story for anyone who is interested:

http://lunabee34.dreamwidth.org/307859.html

Thanks for the rec!

You're welcome!

+1, I haaaate Harry/Snape with the power of 1000 burning supernovae, and I still liked this fic hugely.

Thanks! Ignore my other comment asking for confirmation on the link. I picked the right one! :)

I hope you enjoy it!

I'm about two-thirds through it, and totally loving it. It made me remember how much I like Snape/Harry. The whole thing is so well written. Can't wait to have time to finish it and read more from that author.

Thanks for the rec!

Sweet! I'm really glad you're enjoying the story; I love connecting people with fic they like.

I'm not sure if I should hug you or curse you for this rec, as I ended up reading this for several hours yesterday instead of studying... It was worth it though. :~D

Do you have any more recs? Anyone?

Heeeeeeeeee.

Well, my HP recs are here: http://lunabee34.dreamwidth.org/tag/recs:+hp (vids mixed in)

As far as specifically about Muggles, I really like Memorium. Link to rec here: http://lunabee34.dreamwidth.org/324055.html

I always thought it was a blessing that Harry started school in 1991, that way the internet or cellphones couldn't take over yet.
like half the mysteries in the first books would have been solved by magic google, so the books would have been drastically different

I also don't think that JK would have written the equivalent of wizard internet youth culture very believable

If wizards would even have joined in on that. They don't seem to have TVs in the mid-90s.

I agree with you. It really benefits from being set in the early nineties. I'm just a smidge older than Harry is supposed to be, and it would have been easier for me to go to Hogwarts and give up the five free channels on TV my parents got LOL than my daughter to give up her DS and distorting pictures of her baby sister on her digital camera.

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