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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


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(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pro-choice. While I'm not sure an abortion is something I'd consider for myself, outside of danger to my health or life or a severely deformed fetus/fetus that won't likely survive until birth, I don't want the option taken away because who knows what the future holds? I certainly don't want it taken away from other women, either, because pretty much every conceivable circumstance is bound to happen to someone and I can't sit here as someone not experiencing those circumstances and and like I have a say when I honestly don't know how I might react in the same situation.

As for the other side of the debate, I actually have far more respect for people who would not make exceptions for rape because at least they're being consistent. If abortion is murder, I fail to see how a pregnancy resulting from rape would change that. Making an exception for rape is just admitting the real issue is women's sexuality and wanting to punish women for voluntarily having sex outside of a traditional marriage (as if all traditional marriages can support an unlimited number of children and pregnancy at any random time is never a problem). It's saying, "well, if you didn't want to have sex, then I guess you shouldn't be burdened with this pregnancy" and somehow that's okay, even if it would be murder otherwise.

I think this is why we get politicians saying things like "legitimate rape" can't cause pregnancy. They're torn between prioritizing the belief that abortion is murder and the belief that women's sexual activity needs to be policed and controlled (or torn between constituents who have these different priorities), so they decide to believe that rape can't cause pregnancy or that any sex that leads to pregnancy couldn't really be rape so that they don't have to worry about it.

I can't respect a lack of exceptions if the mother's life or health is in danger. People who are already born also have a right to life and to a decent quality of life with regards to their health.

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Making an exception for rape is just admitting the real issue is women's sexuality and wanting to punish women for voluntarily having sex outside of a traditional marriage

I really hate this assumption (and I'm pro-choice, to get that out of the way). Some people feel that murder is justified in certain circumstances but not others, and one of those circumstances could be rape. Having an unwanted baby conceived out of rape is usually going to cause more trauma than having one that was conceived out of consensual sex. People who are okay with abortion in cases of rape might believe that while murder is wrong, making a rape victim suffer more for it is worse.

And I think the whole argument that people who are against abortion just want to punish women is a huge strawman altogether and ignores how many of them are women who would themselves be in a very compromising position if they got pregnant without having abortion as an option.

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
And I think the whole argument that people who are against abortion just want to punish women is a huge strawman altogether and ignores how many of them are women who would themselves be in a very compromising position if they got pregnant without having abortion as an option.

I dunno, just because you're a woman doesn't mean you can't be sexist against them. If you have an idea of how women should traditionally act, and that they should be forced to bear babies they didn't want just because they conceived them, and damn any female person who goes against such things, etc, it doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for your own gender.