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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-08 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2806 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2806 ⌋

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[Five Nights at Freddy's]


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[Star Trek, MCU, Batman Begins]


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[Twilight Saga]


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[Xenosaga]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Great British Bake Off]


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[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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[Minecraft]


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[Macklemore]










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beverlykatz: (freddie lounds)

[personal profile] beverlykatz 2014-09-08 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they all have distinctive roles/personalities, but I agree that several of them could use more development, new!Uhura in particular. (Nuhura?) My issue with her extends to everything in the reboot movies, though, so I don't really count that against her as a character, if that makes sense.

I think my problem overall is that a lot of these fandoms (mainly reboot and MCU) tend to go into paroxysms over how great they are and "omgggggg flawless ladies!!!" when it's clear that, for the most part, these aren't very developed characters. They're cool, and I really like Peggy myself, but they're not given the narrative attention that the (male) leads are.

Really, it seems like these fans are trying to reach a quota of lady loving in order to not be like "those other fans" who ignore the female characters in favor of the men, so that they can then feel absolved and go on to salivate over Kirk or Tony or Steve or what have you. At least that's my experience.
philstar22: (Black Widow)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-09-08 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it is the male characters' movie. I do wish we would get a female-centric movie, but none of them have been so far. I feel like Peggy and Pepper have been given considerable narrative consider, and in Peggy's case some stuff totally separate from Steve. And Natasha was certainly given her fair share of billing in Avengers (and got lots in Iron Man 2 and Cap 2 as well). Agents of Shield has been fairly good with keeping female characters front and center, and the Agent Carter show will be all about her.

According to IMDb, Black Widow has been announced.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-09 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Which, I think means something different from being just in development.

Re: According to IMDb, Black Widow has been announced.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-09 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone can edit IMDb, there is no Black Widow movie announced or in development.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-09 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
the new star trek movies are the kirk and spock show, and even kirk and spock aren't that well developed.
uhura gets better moments and chances of character development than most of the secondary characters who are all guys anyway. she's better than mccoy who was the third most important character in the original

and let's face it she's better developed than tos Uhura whose character while iconic and progressive for the 60s has like 3 seasons and 6 movies to shine but didn't get that much to do.
beverlykatz: (freddie lounds)

[personal profile] beverlykatz 2014-09-09 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, that's why I said I don't consider it an issue with her being A Female Character. She's just a character in a lackluster action franchise with fairly minimal character development who happens to be female.

I don't think that's a fair comparison, though. TOS!Uhura's role was really progressive for the time. I think the Whoopi Goldberg quote says it best: "Well, when I was nine years old Star Trek came on. I looked at it and I went screaming through the house, 'Come here, mom, everybody, come quick, come quick, there’s a black lady on television and she ain’t no maid!'" New!Uhura might look better in comparison, but when she's being compared to a character from the 60s, that doesn't really mean anything. By contemporary standards she's certainly not a standout.