[ SECRET POST #341 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #341 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Uhhh, made one not!fandom that shouldn't have been there. Fixed now! Uhhhh sorry 46.

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 100 secrets from Secret Submission Post #049.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Thursday, December 13th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 45

[juanitadark.livejournal.com]

I thought he wouldn't shut up about her because his association got her stuck in an alternate plane and while he was very, very fond of her, he didn't love her (if not why the hell burn up a sun and NOT say it to someone you are quite likely to never, EVER, see again?)

He probably fell for Martha the minute he set eyes on her and couldn't deal with it AT ALL so he had start treating Martha how he felt he should have treated Rose (instead of encouraging her belief in them being togetehr forever). Meanwhile Rose - with her NOT being there anymore - can have her history totally rewritten mentally by the Doctor and be completely built up in his mind as the best thing ever - to cover his guilt over feeling that he really just fucked up her life. And, of course, to stop him dealing with whatever he feels toward Martha - so that basically she'll get tired of it and leave. Which she did. Mission accomplished.

Translation: time lord in utter denial acts like a complete asshole. Again. Just in a different way, and with a person who doesn't deserve it.

Sadly, the writers are more likely to retcon this as Rose *actually* being superlative than the Doctor being full of shit.

Re: 45

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

YK, I don't think he was actually in love with either of them. I'm trying very hard to think that Ten just has a very codependent personality. Because god knows he's done a lot worse to his companions than drop them in an alternate universe with everyone they've ever loved. I mean, what he did to Rose was fucked up, but in the grand scheme of things, not nearly as bad as some of the other stuff he's dealt with. So a lot of it is him just being very clingy and imprinting on Rose, and then she gets gone and he's all off-kilter.

And also, RTD apparently identifies with Rose and cannot let her go. She did get to be a bit overmuch by the end of S2...

Re: 45

[juanitadark.livejournal.com]

Then that's just RTD's issues bleeding all over this particular show, because I'm sure he's written Rose into his other work too.

I wouldn't mind the Doctor loving Rose in particular - there's no reason why he couldn't or wouldn't - but can't they at least TRY to make it not only make sense in the scheme of the story the audience has followed in the new series AS WELL AS the history of the show as it stands?

It just doesn't track that stranding Rose when he's watched other characters die and stuff without really pausing for breath - should reach the mammoth predonderance of super significance we've been seeing for the last year or so. It just jerks me right out of the story every time she's mentioned now because I keep thinking but how come he didn't remember all those other companions like this. Even calling it 'epic, love, forever' doesn't make it feasible to me.

It does kind of work in my mind if he's in denial and making it of super-significance because that's how he feels he *should* feel about it. When really, he does care - just not half as much as he led Rose to believ.

But yeah, everyone can call it super epic love, it just doesn't track for me, so that's not what I call it.