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Between sjw and anti-sjw?

Sympathize more with SJW's cause usually, but feel more comfortable around anti-sjws as I haven't experiences with harassment on that end. Mostly apathetic towards the whole movement though due to overexposure and hanging around heavily sjw parts for a while. Or at least the majority of the online slacktivism part, which is probably terrible, but I really don't care. Gotta look out for my own well-being before anyone else's.

Away.

I love debates, political conversations, critical analysis and am an economist. In theory, SJW side wanted to rise awareness and bring problematic stuff to the table. I'm ideaologically with them as a disability activist, but ... I hate political correctedness, US-centrism, massive wanks, no fact-checking, no individuality.

Interestingly, anti-SJWs seem to be more dominating recently and yup, same issues with them as the group above. Less US-centrism though. But oh boy with the political correctedness.

Both are close minded as fuck.

So. Away.

Anti SJW. Simple as that. I've seen SJWs harass someone for criticizing them, saying she was probably white and fat. She posted a photo of herself (she's an Asian woman in her mid 20s) and they told her she was too ugly and too young to try to speak up against them. It's just gross.

I honestly have a hard time understanding what's going on most of the time, because I see "SJW" applied so broadly -- to online bullies, to good and bad analysis, to real and fake history lessons, to kids who are dogmatic and /or hyperbolic with or without also being bullies, and to a huge range of pop-culture analysis, from the genuinely out there to stuff that was already old hat in the 1980s. I've even seen it applied to Anita Sarkeesian, and I find it really hard to imagine a more non-controversial and middle-of-the-road feminist pop culture analysis than the Anita Sarkeesian videos I have seen.

In real life, I enjoy analyzing things to death (including and especially media things I like). I have a special interest in the history of radical movements in the US, and I'm a big fat leftist, so I'm broadly sympathetic to a lot of things that get rolled in under the SJW umbrella. I also don't use Tumblr, so I'm probably shielded from a lot of the stuff people here complain about. But I also run into a lot of "OMG, look at this SJW saying something cray; no one could possibly believe anything this ridonkulous; WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO" and then it turns out it's just an Audre Lorde quote or something.

tl;dr -- I don't think "SJWs" has a coherent enough meaning for me to have any opinion on the set. It's the new "politically correct" as far as I can tell.

Anti-SJW. Because:

1) I've had SJWs try to talk over me and other actual minorities when we tried to share our experiences or explain why we did or didn't find something offensive.

2) Not everyone has the privilege to have been raised in an environment where progressive viewpoints are the norm. Attacking someone who says something ignorant out of genuine ignorance does no one any good, least of all the cause you're trying to champion. You're more likely to turn them off of ever wanting to get involved or learn more.

(reply from suspended user)

I've run into that problem with a friend of mine. I've had a lot of mental health problems (and other health problems), to the point where my life isn't where I wanted it to be by now because I've had to basically put it on hold several times, and the way I deal with it is different from how he wants to deal with his problems. I prefer to remind myself of the things that are still within my power and tell myself that I always have choices even if they are limited by my problems, but when I try to share that mindset with my friend he decides I'm downplaying how bad his problems really are. I can understand the frustration because there really are people who think you can just get over it, but I'd think you can find a balance somewhere between forcing yourself to be an inspiration who never let anything get in the way of your dreams! (I have a special hate for the pressure to do that since I ended up with arthritis that way) and completely giving up.

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As far away as possible.

Anti-asshole, tbh.

Neither. I think a lot of SJW are awful people. But I think that about the anti- crowd as well. And when someone will call you a SJW for disliking how women are portrayed in a game like Ride to Hell (as happened to me), then the term has devolved to uselessness.

Pro-SJ, anti-SJW. Also, I'm in a country where we have different issues than in the US, so I can't really comment on a lot of the things they whine on about (like cultural appropriation through a US-centric lense and things like that).

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