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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-12 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2810 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2810 ⌋

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[Star Trek: The Original Series]


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[Free Eternal Summer]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Patch Adams/Dead Poets Society/What Dreams May Come]













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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-09-12 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the speech is necessarily incompatible with that approach. I think her character is complicated by the context, but the part that's admirable is the ideal as an ideal, and that's what the speech is really all about, and really what TOS-era Trek is all about.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-09-12 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's where I don't think pacifism is the ultimate ideal. I think justice is the ultimate ideal. A complete lack of conflict would be nice, but other things come before that. And her words include that when talking about feeding the hungry and such and should mean that, but that isn't what it means to her.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-09-12 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But I think that is what her ultimate ideal is. I don't agree with her means of putting into practice, her political goals, but I think justice and peace together are pretty clearly the ultimate ideal being invoked in the speech. And as ideals, I can appreciate those. And I don't think it's a vicious fault on her part, either.