ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-14 04:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #343 ]


⌈ Secret Post #343 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

If I may direct your attention to this poll HERE

EDIT: I removed a few secrets because it was just brought to my attention (I have a crappy memory) that people are being banned for being flagged for this kind of stuff. SORRY. D:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #049.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom [ 1 ] secret revisted/link to fanfiction.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, December 15th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here CLOSED.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 44

(Anonymous) 2007-12-15 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Okay so please tell me then, how would you deal with a selfish brat who has a superiority complex and acts like being near you will give him the plague? Since you apparently think Luke deserved a hug for being sad you must know how to deal with his brattishness as well, eh? Go on, I'm listening.

Everyone else in the group was on a mission to SAVE the people of Akzeriuth. For them the only people that mattered were the citizens who were dying rather horrible deaths. Why would they want to deal with a brat who snapped at every piece of advice given to them? People needing saving > brat anyday, in my books. No one tried to help him that ENTIRE time BEFORE Akzeriuth, REALLY? I think you've got a screw loose. They all mentioned Luke's attitude to him several times and warned him that he better shape up. It was his decision to ignore their warning.

He DIDN'T deserve another chance. He kept whining that it wasn't his fault. Why should anyone console a person claiming it wasn't their fault when he had to share at least partial blame? Anyone else would've been beside themselves with grief over this crime but all Luke could say was "It's not my fault, Van was...not my fault...Master Van, Master Van, Master Van". They would've been by his side the entire time if he just admitted that he was in the wrong. But NOPE. Luke hadn't learned his lesson yet. Tear didn't say she didn't buy his routine for a minute. She said she would watch over him to make sure his words would finally be put into action.

Why don't you play the game and actually pay attention to what the OTHER characters are doing for a change? Luke is a good character who goes from one extreme to the other before finally finding a balance but you wouldn't know that would you?
sincere: DGM: Lenalee's back to the viewer ([namine] either psychic or awesome)

Re: 44

[personal profile] sincere 2007-12-15 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Let me use smaller sentences:

No one should hug Luke instead of making him take responsibility for the lives lost.

No one should have told him Akzeriuth is not his fault.

There are about five minutes during which Luke convinces himself that it isn't his fault. During this time, his friends abandoned him. Good. They should have, if he was that deluded.

I am not talking about this time. Okay? Can you grasp that? Is that okay?

I am talking about a period shortly after this time.

In this period, Luke knew that it was his fault, that he had failed utterly, that he was responsible.

He swore to try and become a better person.

Tear told him she didn't think he could ever be a better person and that she would judge him every step of the way. Many of his "friends" sneered at him and reminded him of his failures every time he might have felt better about himself. He was trying to grow as a character and they are trying to put him in a box.

This is why they are dicks.

This doesn't mean that they are evil or that *LAWL* I am ignoring them. Frankly, if I joined the fandom, I'd probably ignore Luke entirely. I'm way more interested in Anise, Peony, Guy, Natalia, Asch, etc. But that doesn't mean they don't treat Luke like crap.

Intelligent and rational people are capable of making the distinction that sometimes awesome characters act like dicks.

Maybe that will keep you from constructing straw men for twelve seconds? Too much to hope for?