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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-25 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2823 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2823 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not difficult to pass the Bechdel test when "hey otaku, look at all these moe girls interacting with each other!" is the primary thrust of what you're doing.
Fortunately, the Bechdel test is not meant to be the sole and all-encompassing means by which media's representation of women can be assessed.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No, not the sole means, but it is the basic foundation. That the culture that more than any other thrives on rape and continued abuse and degradation of women has a solid foundation in it's media for feminist growth, and we do not... that's fucking awful.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"No, not the sole means, but it is the basic foundation."

No it isn't. It's a one-note joke in a webcomic, not a checkbox to be filled out when scriptwriting, and it shouldn't be "the basic foundation" of anything.

DA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-26 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
It should be a thing that happens. The literal point of the test is that female characters talk to other female characters about something besides a male character or guys.

That's it.

If NONE of your female characters can pass that, as an absolute baseline, you have a problem in your scriptwriting.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not the basic foundation, either. It's a way of assessing a work, not a game-changer.

Also, I'm aware Japan has its own gender issues to deal with, but your use of hyperbole makes me think you might be trolling.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"The culture that more than any other thrives on rape and continued abuse and degradation of women"

Seriously? I mean, I know Japan has its problems, as do we all, but 'the culture that more than any other' thrives on rape and abuse?

Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-26 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Your anti-Japanese sentiments are showing.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure there's a part of it that's pandering to otaku into moe girls but there's also lots of other anime/manga with great interactions between female characters that aren't for fanservice's sake.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-26 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Calling "moe" is getting precisely as meaningless as calling "Mary-Sue". Half the time, it's just BS generalizations based on totally undefined specifications of what the term means.