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Dragon Age (that isn't Mass Effect)

Are you looking for gameplay or story/character similarities for Dragon Age?

I like both, actually, but ideally something hat has a big fantasy world, characters similar to it (and bonus points if you can kill things with a sword).

If you're willing to brave it, Dark Souls has a surprisingly rich story that you really have to dig for. You're just going to be doing a lot of digging and the dirt keeps falling back into the hole and catching fire.

I don't think I'm masochistic enough to play Dark Souls.

Err, Elder Scrolls? Like Skyrim?

sa, adding, it doesn't really have "characters" in the same sense that DA does, but you can recruit people to fight with you, and some have semi-developed personalities. And you really can't get more open fantasy world than an Elder Scrolls game.

I've been thinking o doing that - I played the intro and I hink I like the gameplay less. But I guess once I get immersed in the story I'd probably enjoy it.

I wouldn't say the story is as immersive as Dragon Age, and I'd agree totally that the controls are a bit clunkier. But they are more "real" - you click for each hand, which can only have one item in at a time, you jump and dodge and control everything much more up close than Dragon Age. Which makes it harder, I think, but it's just different and takes some getting used to.

But what really made the game addictive for me was the worldbuilding (I think the map was said to be an equivalent of ten miles long, you don't transport to different areas like DA, you walk through it all). You can really do almost anything. Pick up any item, kill any NPC, get married and adopt children, kill and even ride dragons... it's almost limitless.

If I had to compare, I'd say I like DA better just because I'm a sucker for developed casts of characters. But Skyrim (and its predecessors) are brilliant just for how much you can do. It's an easy world to get lost in and realize you've blown 200 hours into your file, and haven't actually done any of the main quest stuff.

Skyrim is honestly the most playable Elder Scrolls game. I found it the most engaging and the most fun. They really took design lessons from Fallout 3 to heart.

The only other one I played significantly was Oblivion, and whereas I liked it, I do think Skyrim is more playable. Then again, I modded the fuck out of the game so maybe if I tried it vanilla I'd think differently.

I've played Oblivion vanilla as well as with a bunch of mods and it's mostly just bland slurry. Its biggest improvement over the unplayable mess that was Morrowind was combat that actually relied on player skill in a fully 3D engine.

I've played Skyrim almost completely vanilla (most changes have been purely cosmetic, like music mods and a few new characters.)

My Skyrim mods were mostly cosmetic, too. Changing my adopted orphans into Khajiit children, enhanced character creation plus additional hairstyles/colors to make my hero beautiful, adding capes... though then there were the ones like making my horse essential, because fuck Skyrim's horses running away the moment you dismount them to charge at dragons five miles away.

I just remember Oblivion being incredibly buggy and several quests were impossible for me to complete. Though now that I think about it, Skyrm was probably just as buggy, and even with the patches (unofficial patches too) I still got locked out of a few quests.

I d know that I found the ability tree (is that the right name?)in Skyrim quite impressive and the world does look pretty amazing to me.

Dragon Age is essentially a less overtly generic and more playable version of Baldur's Gate.

You could also try Planescape Torment if you hate yourself. I wouldn't recommend it.

I've played Baldur's gate (and Baldur's gate 2) already, but yes, I see why'd you rec it. I rather enjoyed both.

What's Planescape Torment?

Basically Baldur's gate with less combat, heavy on story and choices, and set in a weirder, darker world of the Dungeon and Dragons setting.

An overwrought mess of bad writing and bad combat in a ridiculous CREEPYCOOLDARK fantasy freakshow setting completely oblivious to the tongue-in-cheek roots of the tabletop version of that setting.

Keep in mind that this is Dethtoll. The only RPGs I've ever seen him praise are Fallout and Fallout 2. (I actually realized at one point that I'd never seen him say anything one way or another about Arcanum, so I asked him what he thought, and he immediately started talking about why it sucked.)

The only RPGs from THAT ERA (1996 to 2003 or so) -- there are plenty of later RPGs that I enjoy. Like Dragon Age, or Skyrim, or Dark Souls, or whatever.

(If you count Deus Ex and System Shock 2 as RPGs, which I don't, then include them in the "like" list)

(also, I'm pretty sure I just called Arcanum a broken piece of shit with nice music and left it at that. There's plenty I could criticize about it if you actually wanted more detail.)

Edited 2014-09-28 00:07 (UTC)

Jade Empire is also by Bioware, and while I haven't gotten very far into it myself, pretty much everyone who's played it seems to have enjoyed it as much as Dragon Age. There's also Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, pretty light on story and characters, sadly, but really heavy on a huge and pretty explorable world, really intuitive combat (seriously, I wish every RPG had this kind of combat) and game mechanics (especially crafting and stealing), and fun sidequests. I've gotten much further on that one and I'm still enjoying it.

Never heard of Kingdoms of Amalur, I'll check it out.

Kingdoms of Amalur wasn't that great, imo. It had more of a cartoony vibe, I felt.

Dragon's Dogma? The character creator was really good, and the fighting was fun. The map was pretty big, although not HUGE, but there are a shit ton of side quests. It didn't really have a strong storyline like Dragon Age, and the characters you take with you were more background characters, but it was still fun and I played it a few times.

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