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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-17 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2845 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2845 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Xena Warrior Princess]


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(Fullmetal Alchemist, Welcome To Night Vale)


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06. [ SPOILERS for How to Train Your Dragon 2 ]
[ WARNING for incest ]



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[Gone Girl]


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08. [ WARNING for sexual abuse ]

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2014-10-17 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
08. [ WARNING for sexual abuse ]
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(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Which red flags?

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He's a thirty-one year old man who can't say the word sex ("it" when talking to Coulson in 1.13, intimate to Raina in 1.18), the fact that he didn't react at all to Lorelei raping him (although that could be the show's fault since they haven't even acknowledged it), the fact that he got weirdly sexual with Skye and May in the finale (which worried a lot of people), that he supposedly used May for sex (she started the relationship and so I don't buy any of his claims to Raina except for the Coulson comment) and a lot of the things that Garrett himself said. There might also be a few things that I'm forgetting.

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Did Lorelei have sex with him?

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, that one user that always always shows up to stan Ward (who is conspicuously absent today)

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd read that fic and I dont even like the show. I adore angst tho.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I would read the hell out of that fic!
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-10-17 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
According to some of the fanfic, half the fic writers out there agree with you.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh can't people just be evil without bringing sexual abuse into it. it is bad enough the show is setting Ward up to be the standard Whedon tortured woobie, do you have to go along with it.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't put it past the psychopath who kidnapped a teenager and abused him and then went on to kill a shitload of people.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but it also diminishes Ward's own acts of evil and paints him as a victim instead of willing perpetrator. I am so sick of that trope. The only reason people are trying it is because Ward is a pretty boy.

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of the Brienne/Pod secret from last week. Historically, when older men are in authority over young teen boys in a situation with no women around, sexual abuse has generally been taken for granted as part of the point. Pretty much all navies, the Spartans and all their creepy imitators, the entire British public school system, the Catholic church...

Often times they'll justify it as a rite of passage, part of toughening the boys up to deal with a dangerous (and presumably very rapey) world. It's different from how they justify sexual abuse of girls, because for some reason people always categorize those differently.

So, yes, I'm inclined to agree with you, OP. I think raping Ward would have seemed like a natural show-of-dominance thing to Garrett. Still doesn't mean I want to see Ward redeemed as a wounded woobie; I'd rather he just left the show, the bland little Nazi.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't Garrett leave ward alone in the woods most of the time?

not op

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
At the beginning of their relationship (and by "relationship," I mostly mean "association together"), yes. But then he was his SHIELD SO before Ward was on Coulson's team, and Garrett also initiated him in whatever espionage/terrorism HYDRA was doing pre-Winter Soldier.

*goes to grab popcorn*

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Ward wank. Should be fun.

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
it's been an hour and not much is brewing up so idk

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-10-18 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
god, I hope not.

I hoop we're not going the "poor ward, he was just misunderstood and abused" route.

He wasn't brainwashed, he did all that stuff willingly - for fuck's sake, just let him be the asshole he is.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
He was abused for his entire life. Abuse IS brainwashing. Or are you one of those people who tells abuse victims, ''but you had a choice, why didn't you walk away?''

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Still doesn't excuse what he did to Fitz.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't say that it did. It's up to the team if/when they forgive Ward for his actions.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
But... The secret said nothing about it excusing what he did to Fitz.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
It wouldn't surprise me. Garrett was an abusive son of a bitch. Think whatever you want about Ward but you can't deny a lot of what happened was because he was an abuse victim for his entire life and it warped him.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2014-10-18 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Why is this a secret, OP? This comes up in every discussion about Ward we have on this site, seems like.
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[personal profile] riddian 2014-10-18 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear God, I just finished watching "Turn Turn Turn" (which is the mid-season ep I think?) and at one point Garrett says something like "it's amazing what I could talk this boy into :3" and at the time I giggled because it sounded hilariously sexual to me. Then later I realized it meant Garrett recruited him into HYDRA. Now I'm just horrified because this ties those two together in the most awful way possible. Shit. :X

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Don't watch this show, but reading your HYDRA note reminds me of Bucky, that skeevy scene where they electro-shock him and all the awful abuses he probably had to undergo. :[

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