[ SECRET POST #2855 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2855 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I assume people who like exclusively femslash pairings are boring as fuck and think they're the greatest thing to ever happen to feminism.

[(Anonymous)]

This, especially if it's pairing together women that have had literally no interaction just for the sake of ~lesbians~!! As a lesbian myself, it's patronizing at best, offensive at worst.

[(Anonymous)]

Het and slash shippers pull this all the time though?

[(Anonymous)]

Especially in crossovers?

I assume those who rabidly femslash characters who've never even met are just driven to desperate measures because of the sausagefest which is some fandoms. Now I learn it's actually offensive to want to increase the love?

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously

[(Anonymous)]

That's actually more indicative of slash and het mentality. With female pairings I see a lot of "they'd just make good friends!" Or "they're like sisters!", and this is if they have a lot of intimate interactions.

What fandoms are you in?

DA

[(Anonymous)]

It happens a lot in fandoms for anime and Japanese games.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I see.

[likeadeuce]

Or because none of the women in the fandom actually interact with each other, which is a widely-observed phenomenon hence the Bechdel test.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah…that's a huge issue for me. Even something like MCU which has quite a number of female characters. How many of them interact at all?

The best example I can think of is Jane and Darcy.

Pepper and Natasha do a bit in Iron Man 2. But for the most part there's very little to go on.

[rosefyre]

Natasha and Maria Hill in Winter Soldier, though I think that's usually in a larger group - but they are actually interacting.

Jane and Darcy in both Thor movies, Sif and Frigga a little in Thor 2, I think, Frigga and Jane in Thor 2, Sif a little with Jane and Darcy in Thor, but again, larger group.

Pepper and Natasha in Iron Man 2, yes.

Um.

Guardians of the Galaxy has Gamora and Nebula, though I don't know how much they're actually alone. They do interact though.

That may be it? At least, in the movies. If you count Agents of SHIELD, you get more.

[(Anonymous)]

In a group, it does provide some interesting perspective on how they interact, but it makes it difficult for me to use that as a basis for shipping compared to a one on one conversation where they're specifically talking to each other rather than addressing a large swathe of people.

It's just hard to build a relationship off that because they're playing off the men as much as each other and so it doesn't give you insight into their relationship to a particular person.

[rosefyre]

True. Of course, I'm of the "make me believe it" school of shipping, which basically means that pairings are nowhere near the most important basis for a fic for me, and I will not choose not to read a fic based on pairing (though sometimes I will choose to read a fic because I especially like a pairing). I will happily read anything, as long as the author is good. So if it's two characters who never interact in canon? That's cool. Two characters who hate each other? If you can make it work, go for it. Yeah, I have preferred pairings, and there are certainly pairings that are easier to make work, but that doesn't mean I won't read the others.

[brooms]

so, to sum it up, as the ayrt's already pointed out (and i quote):

"But for the most part there's very little to go on."

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a lesbian and I do this. Sorry you're so easily offended.

[(Anonymous)]

As another lesbian: get over yourself. A lot of media is really goddamn bad about female characters interacting.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[cloud_riven]

Oh god I forgot about those types of shippers. The kind that make it sound like they're doing the world a favour in social justice by shipping women together. And it's usually by pairing the spares too.

[(Anonymous)]

I have never met this kind of femslash shipper. This really happens?

[(Anonymous)]

they're small pockets, mind you, but it does happen

(well, actually it's mostly fans who ship slash, het and femslash, not the femslash exclusive ones who are secure in their preference.)

[(Anonymous)]

In my experience, many people who think they're the greatest thing to happen to feminism actually dislike femslash, because they think that female friendships are more important and feminist and that lesbians are as bad as straight men.

[(Anonymous)]

This is making me laugh, but I completely believe you've met people like this.

I imagine they think that sex or romance spoils the purity of female interaction, or some such rot. I've met people who think that if women were in charge, there'd be no wars. It's a similar delusion. Women are such dainty pure creatures, you know?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

That's exactly what they think, actually. It sounds funny when we put it so bluntly, but there are genuinely people (many of them encountered on Tumblr, let's be honest) who believe that lesbians are fetishizing themselves and objectifying women just by existing. Shipping things? Even worse, you monster.

Less seriously, they also throw a fit every time Femslash February rolls around because what about teh female friendships???? i am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me??

It kills me.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, I've never seen that part of Tumblr, though I am unfortunately familiar with that, er, branch of feminism. Links?

[(Anonymous)]

sorry that you hate lesbians