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[ SECRET POST #2861 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2861 ⌋

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It's obviously entirely up to you, but I feel like there's something we should be able to do against people like that.

Yeah, I too think we should be able to do stuff to people who do stuff I don't like. People should totally stop doing stuff I don't like.

That's not really helping. Please don't do that.

We already do stop people from posting certain things. Personal attacks or suicide encouragement are not posted/deleted for example. Gory or sexually explicit posts are linked (they did not use to be, fyi, but someone requested it at some point and Case thought it reasonable).

I don't think it's unfair to have a discussion within a fan community about what we are willing and unwilling to tolerate. The reason I put it here and not message case in pm is that people CAN actually voice their opinions - because, you know, if everyone disagrees with me then this is clearly not this community's wish and I was wrong. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about re-evaluating rules if we see that a problem is forming.

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Yeah, but the things you use as examples are things that can genuinely hurt people emotionally/psychologically (except the sexually explicit thing I guess..I assume that's for NSFW purposes, although I guess it could be upsetting depending on what's depicted). Seeing a spoiler is just mildly inconvenient

Not in fandom's eyes. Don't you know talking about rape fic is okay, but god forbid you spoil something.

excuse you I've been in therapy for nearly three years because I got spoiled for Game of Thrones

MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO READ THE BOOKS OKAY??

It's not so much about the spoiling and more about the way the person was acting about it.

Basically this. And the deliberately posting more spoilers because someone dared complain.

The person that got the spoilers, Chardmonster, was acting like an ass as well. What did they think was going to happen when they posted with that attitude? Did they really think the OP was going to just admit they were wrong and apologize? They went picking a fight and got it.
Link for reference: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1105787.html?thread=790809723#cmt790809723

What did that woman think was going to happen when she talked back to that guy? Did she really think he was going to stop catcalling her? She went asking for rape and got it.

Wait, are you seriously conflating a spoiler for a television show with rape? What is wrong with you?

Any point you might have had was just lost when you seriously compared victim blaming rape victims to being spoiled for a show over the internet. Please be trolling.

(frozen comment) Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

(Anonymous) - 2014-11-03 00:21 (UTC) - Expand

Chard acting like an ass? That's not new.

(frozen comment) Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

(Anonymous) - 2014-11-03 01:20 (UTC) - Expand

But figuring out whether a comment contains suicide encouragement, gore or sexually explicit content is a lot easier than figuring out if something's a spoiler. You're asking case to have an encyclopedic knowledge of every single fandom that appears on FS, including its chronology. It also assumes there's a general consensus on the statue of limitations for spoilers, and what the penalty should be, and how to enforce banning when it comes to people without signed accounts.

I don't disagree that it'd be nice to do something about trolls who post spoilers, but I'm not seeing where it's feasible to monitor the community to stop them beyond what case is doing now: acting as quickly as he can if/when alerted by the users.

I'm not asking he has encyclopedic knowledge - just that if someone sees it happening, comes here and posts: "hey, case, this person is deliberately spoiling" that he considers doing something about it.

I'm not suggesting he wades through the comment looking for spoilers.

This is bullshit and you know it. Communities don't work if there aren't standards of conduct. And when you're breaking those standards, or being a fuckass, then yeah, people get to say "no, you can't do that."

Or do you really think that people should just be able to do whatever they want, no matter what effect it has on anyone else? Should we not stop people from harassing people, or telling them to kill themselves, or sending death threats? Should we not stop people from stealing or assaulting or murdering? How far do you want to take this, you piece of shit?

Like I said, if they're trolling by posting spoilers in random places, then let me know and those threads will be deleted.

If you actively go post in a thread where spoilers are obviously being posted, though, I don't think it's reasonable to complain that the replies you get contain more spoilers.

(Or, if there's a troll that keeps starting spoiler threads in GC over and over, I'll delete those too. One thread by one person isn't enough to enforce a blanket spoiler ban, though.)

Edited 2014-11-02 21:35 (UTC)

I meant the former anyway!

If spoilers are being posted in a thread on a secret, or there are say, MCU spoilers in an MCU thread, I find that completely different.

The spoilers weren't really being posted randomly though and the initial spoiler wasn't troll-y. The OP had a genuine point to make (a really dumb point, but still) and the purpose wasn't just to spoil people for the heck of it. All of the other spoilers were posted in the same, Doctor Who thread as well so that wasn't really random either

The fist post was basically: Apologize to meeee, because I was so clever and you were wrong and I need to share this with all of F!S while posting major spoilers. HEY LOOK AT ME!"

Seriously, not only was that a troll, it was an entitled one at that.

The thread you are complaining about very clearly weblinked itself to a Doctor Who secret. If you dodn't bother to follow the link to see what they were talking about, then you've only yourself to blame. Teal Deer? You are being over sensitive, and you are also coming off petulant now that Case has told you you can't have your own way.

They're being a lot more calm about this and you people are.

I mean, if that keeps happening (like one anon keeps randomly spamming GC with spoiler threads just to spoil people), I'll do something about that particular variant of trolling.

As far as I can see though, yesterday was just one thread of someone talking about Doctor Who (?) and probably spoiling unintentionally (the thread was about them being right, not maliciously intending to spoiler). They didn't get started with the deliberate spoilering until people went in and started engaging with them. It seemed like a one-off rather than a trend that's going to continue.

Fair enough :)

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