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All of them except the Flu Vaccine pretty much. You only need to get the Flu Vaccine if you have respiratory problems, lowered immune system (either because of age, or other illnesses) and/or are in a heightened risk to give the flu to someone in the danger zone.

Also the Flu Vaccine you are getting is for the strains they see coming towards where you live, it isn't always perfect, but it is not for the strain they got last year. Which is why it sometimes fail, because they are playing the numbers as it is impossible to predict all the different strains of the flu your area will get. Which isn't to say it doesn't work, most of the time the guesses are right and they safe the life of thousands of people every year.

Vaccines are quite safe and the chance of side effects are quite small.

I have been vaccinated for everything under the sun* so have everyone I know and the worst side effect I got was from the Hep A/B vaccine and that lasted a day (I couldn't lift my arm above shoulder level) and was something I was told about beforehand and it wasn't dangerous. Oh and the BCG (That is the one against TB) vaccine hurt as hell to get, but that isn't dangerous either, I do have a scar behind my left shoulder from it tho, which everyone who got the same shot I did have.

*Well not literally, but between my childhood vaccines, the first shot was a vaccination against 10 different diseases (at 3 months I think?), then I got my 1 year shots, 3 year shots and the revaccinations and stuff during school, and also I went on Holiday to Gambia and got some extra shots because of that.

I'd recommend getting the 'flu vaccine too. One of the things that made Spanish Flu so deadly last century was that it actually killed "healthy" people faster than it infected those with compromised systems. If you were young and healthy, you were more likely to die from it.

Interesting, I am just going with what The Norwegian Health Department is recommending, and they only recommend: The Elderly, people with lowered immune systems and people with respiratory issues to get the flu vaccine. And the Flu you get vaccinated against for with The Flu Vaccine is just a mix of the strains they think might hit your area of the world all of which aren't particularly dangerous to healthy people. The Spanish Flu, Bird Flu and so on are completely different stories, and I would recommend anyone to get vaccinated against one of those if we had an outbreak.

Its more on cost that they are recommended only for high risk groups than anything else. Young and healthy people should still consider them, especially if they are going to be in high density areas. For example, most call centres, public transport options (underground trains in particular) or anywhere there is restricted air circulation, and workers in nursing and care industries should all be indicators for getting a flu shot. Not having it is based on the idea that it is cheaper for you to just endure it and be contagious only to non-high risk groups than it is to pay for all those vaccines.

Its a very cavalier attitude to influenza and it is based on the persistent idea that it is just common cold but a teeny bit worse, rather than it being a potential killer and something that can make even mild cases utter misery. Also not enough people stay home from work when they get it, out of some sort of protestant work ethic masochism, if people actually did stay home, stayed away from stress, and recovered rather than dragging themselves into work and infecting everyone else then that advice would change pretty quickly.

With the things like Spanish flu, granted they are unpredictable beasts, to say the least, but even a small boost in your immune system can make all the difference. Even a vaccine for a different strain still produces some immunological response. There is also the herd immunity prevention too, the less people who have regular flu the less chance there is of someone having a virus mutate inside their own lungs and start spreading. It all helps stop patient zero existing.

I have a feeling we are debating this from two quite different societies. I live in a country that vaccinated everyone who wanted it when we had the Swine Flu Epidemic, and the state covered most of the cost, just like they do with everything else medical.

Also if you have the flu you have sick leave and you use it, going to work with the flu isn't something that is seen as okay. It is against the law to fire someone because they are sick, you write your own "doctors note" if it is less than 3 days if it is longer your Primary Care Doctor needs to write the note. Not saying no one ever goes to work when they are sick, it happens. Then again I wasn't allowed by my boss to show up to work (I worked with food at the time), because I puked in the morning, I didn't have any other symptoms, but I wasn't allowed back at work before it had gone 48 hours after the last time I puked.

I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying I am trusting the Health Department and my doctors to tell me the truth about my health and what I need and don't need to get a vaccine for. Off course they could be lying to me, but it would be more expensive in the long run to threat everyone from the potential damage than it would to give us a shot.

I appreciate hearing about your experience!

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