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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-14 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2873 ]


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[personal profile] fscom 2014-11-14 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
The very concept of fridging is total horse apples.

People die, characters die. It's what they do. Everything that happens in a story (including someone dying) is designed to in some way move the story forward. The idea that characters should not be killed to provoke an emotional reaction in the audience or a character is just utter rubbish.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, no. People get mad at fridging because it feels like an obvious, ham-fisted way to yank at the audience's heartstrings, and that's bad writing right there. The idea isn't that no characters ever die, it's that it shouldn't feel like a cheap trick performed by bored writers who can't think of anything better.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but I think the term "fridging" is as frequently misapplied as the term "Mary Sue".
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-15 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Not nearly.

It is applied overly broadly, but hasn't yet reached the level of meaningless overuse as Mary Sue.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say so.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
People get upset about Fridging because oftentimes, it's the female character that gets fridged in order to provide 'motivation' for the male characters to 'avenge' her and give him (or multiple hims) more manpain.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it depends. Was the killed character given her (or his) own personality and motivations before she died? Were we given a reason to care about her death?

Or did she just exist to die as a plot device, and we had no reason to care other than that the main character cared?

If it's the latter, then it's fridging, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for actually comprehending the meaning of the term. Surprisingly rare, I'm dismayed to discover.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard the term 'fridging' before. I'm not even really sure what it means ... a character who is put in the fridge ... dies ... like ... shelving?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
lol is tvtropes renaming everything to be politically correct so no one notices what a shithole that site is

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dunno about all the renaming... but yeah, it's a absolute dump nowadays. The times when I used to hang around on that website and only stop because either IE crashed because of having too many windows open or because I suddenly noticed it was light outside have long gone.

Power went to FastEddie's head in a very big, very bad way.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Same. I don't browse it as much so I don't notice many of the newer changes. It started going downhill after the whole adult content/google adsense fiasco.

What's been going on as of late?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

quick history of the term

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
It comes from superhero comics fandom. Inspired by a Green Lantern story where the male lead came home to find his girlfriend's body in his fridge.

Due to Gail Simone's "Women in Refrigerators" site, "fridging" became a shorthand critical term for any writing that does horrible things to a female supporting character primarily to affect the male lead. It gets used more loosely than that, though.

Re: quick history of the term

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
cue slew of people declaring danny "not fridging" because it's a man so he doesn't count

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, it counts. Interpreting it as "bad things happen to women to hurt men" was problematic, even when reading Gail's original list. For example, Wanda Maximoff losing her sons was not fridging her, but arguably was fridging her sons--to change her status quo from stable mother to single loose cannon.

Her husband's status wasn't the focus, either. He was deactivated and rebooted to mess with her.

So it's better as a non-gendered term.
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Re: quick history of the term

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-11-15 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Tangentially related: in DC Scribblenauts, if you summon a fridge in front of a Kyle Rayner, he weeps.
Edited 2014-11-15 01:26 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
LOL @ the statement that he had "characterization". Really?!
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-11-15 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Fridging black men is almost as common a trope as fridging women, so ??

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Mte.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Easily my favorite example of that: http://youtu.be/Ohj1ZIXiO44?t=1h3m20s