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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-16 03:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2875 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2875 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #411.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
who doesn't see the second half as being intentionally "snotty" or intentionally snobbish about it? I see the unsaid "for me". All of their language seems to pointing to "this is how I see it, not necessarily the way everyone should be"

Even the "only the original author's interpretation is worth caring about" is prefaced by 'in my mind'.

They're just explaining how they see it, they're not telling people that fanfiction and shipping other canons is wrong.

Honestly I don't see why everyone's getting all "wow rude" about how someone's saying they think. I mean I definitely think differently, but OP is entitled to do their shipping and stuff their way , as long as they're not forcing it on other people. and it doesn't sound like they do that.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I read it that way too.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And everyone else is entitled to their opinions about OP's opinion. That includes the opinion that OP's opinion is wrong.

It goes both ways. Having the right to an opinion doesn't mean everyone just has to nod along and say nothing, even if they disagree.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry.. I just can't stop seeing your "OP's opinion is wrong" and imagining a kid having a hissy fit because someone's not playing their pretend game right.

OP is talking about their personal reason for why they don't ship canon characters and theorize beyond canon. You can disagree with their reasoning , but it's petty and immature to sit there and rage about how wrong they are.

I hate when people make generalizations about fanfic things like AUs and crossovers. If someone were to say "They all suck" I'd say something. However when someone says something like "I've found most AUs/crossovers I've read to be badly written and pointless/uninteresting, so I don't read them" , I just say "I understand".

Because I can tell the difference between "they suck people should stop writing them" and "I really don't like this kind of fanfic, It bores me/lacks appeal." I don't really see how anyone can really say the latter approach is wrong as long as the person is talking about in relevance to their interest and taste.

That's basically what OP is saying here. Like if someone argued with people every time they said they choose not to read "Canon/OC" everyone would make fun of that person for being oversensitive. But someone posts a secret saying "I prefer to consider canon the authority I go by/ only ship OCs", making it obvious that it's a personal preference, and you are all "BUT YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi again OP.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

ITT: butthurt fanboys/fangirls

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Now you're not even making sense, OP. Try harder.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
So you clearly don't see 'only the original author's vision is worth caring about' as judgmental of everyone who thinks/does differently.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I see the "in my mind, only the original author's vision is worth caring about" and see it to mean "Personally I only am interested in the original author".

I think assuming that that explicitly means judging everyone who thinks or does it differently and that's the ONLY right interpretation comes off as someone who's looking to be offended.

I see OP as someone who just doesn't feel like getting too deep into fandom and all the fandom ships and theories. They could be confessing it for any number of reasons , maybe all their friends are in fandom, or maybe they feel weird about being only interested in doing it this way. Sure, wanting to send a message of judgement to everyone in the comm could be a reason... but if someone were doing that they probably would word it differently.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
You can't look to be offended. You either are or you're not. I am, you're not, that's all there is to it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I got from that statement too.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Chill.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ugh blooo blooo

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
And I see you making these long, rambling posts because you're upset that people disagree with something posted on fandomsecrets and wonder why the hell you're accusing OTHER people of looking for things to be upset about.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
"I fail to see the appeal of picturing elaborate fantasies about characters that are someone else's property."

"Fanworks feel pointless."

Those are some pretty big generalizations about fandom.

And it's still kind of funny how you keep saying you know what OP's saying when you're apparently not OP. Because if you're not, then you don't know, any more than anyone else in this thread does.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but i agree with them. those read very clearly to me as being specifically about the OP's personal attitude towards things, not a general judgment on fandom. OP is just saying they personally don't understand. it's incredibly clear from context that the whole paragraph there is specifically them talking about their own attitude, not passing judgment on anyone else.

in fact, TBH, I don't think it's even possible to call either of those statements a generalization about fandom.

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Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi OP.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahha not OP

I have a bunch of canon character ships.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
IA.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
At what point does something become 'forced' on someone? OP comes across as one of those people who does get on people's shit, maybe not aggressively so, but in a way that most would consider an overstepping of bounds. Certain parts stand out: "characters that are someone else's property [...] pointless [...] only the original author matters, and only their vision is worth caring about." It makes me wonder what OP is doing in fandom at all, if not to criticize it.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think they're being snobby I just think they're making a big deal out of nothing.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Adding that I don't even see anyone calling them a snob above.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
correction - one person

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Good call. And I agree.

Re: Am I the only one....

(Anonymous) 2014-11-17 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
You're not alone. There's a a lot of projection going on.