[ SECRET POST #2881 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2881 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Juggernaut pairings you don't ship?

[(Anonymous)]

Hannibal/Will

Oh, thank god I'm not the only one! It honestly only works as a dark, non-con sort of pairing. I didn't mind it initially, but now it's just... everywhere, and I'm sick of it and of the hardcore shippers.

The thing that bugs me is, for it to work, Will is written as this poor, helpless woobie, or it's like his personality got removed. (Hannibal, too, to a certain extent.)

But maybe the brainwashing is part of the appeal?

Re: Juggernaut pairings you don't ship?

[purpleseas]

I'm too careful about who I follow to get bombarded with it anymore, but I know how that is. I shipped it with reservations when there were only 13 episodes and I needed more more more all the time, but as the show has gone on and only gotten richer and more layered, seeing it as a mainly or even heavily romantic thing feels like the wildest oversimplification. I read so many fics where Hannibal's whole motive for everything was to get Will in bed, as if he couldn't have done that in like 15 fewer steps if his goals were really that simple. Will does have his woobie qualities, but a lot of people don't get the difference between vulnerable and helpless, so they turn a snarky, well-muscled outdoorsman who put ten bullets into a guy in the pilot into this willowy wisp of a thing with no fight in him at all. I know that's a kink thing, too, but man, they're not watching the same show I am. Between Wispy Will and Robot Hannibal, and Hannibal easily getting his ideal outcome about 99% of the time, I didn't have a hard time giving up on the fic, lol.

Re: Juggernaut pairings you don't ship?

[(Anonymous)]

DA
I like Hannibal/Will a lot, and while I don't see much of the Master Goal of Sex (because the show pounds in that he wants a partner/murder husband; and a lot of fics start them banging before Will knows, anyway), I do know exactly what you both mean about Wispy Will! I guess I don't mind it in certain types of fic - brainwashing is totally a kink, yeah - but I feel like I ought to defend as someone who ships their IC versions, too...

(In a better world, sex would be another battleground for their power struggle; rather than this saying sex is superfluous to their relationship, it only has significance because they're not having it.)

If you did want the pairing to work out in a semi-good way, it's not that Will would have to be annihilated - he's changed to the point where he can accept "doing bad things to bad people" as of S2; the person who needs to meet him in the middle now is Hannibal.

Hannibal has his arbitrary Rude, which isn't even a strong rule; it doesn't sound like a far stretch for him to use Will's type of justice as a standard, instead. Some of my favorite stories are basically Murder Husbands with Vigilante-ish Caveats. No, Hannibal will never be motivated by justice or altruism, but if he wants Will to stick around...? Well, the window for such a thing in the show has probably already closed, but that's why fanworks exist.