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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-29 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2888 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2888 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's two separate issues. You're mixing your apples, OP. More asexual folk in media don't mean less good female characters. There's no link.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if they're responding to mixed apples? "I wish there were more asexual characters in media so everyone wouldn't be obsessed with sex and dating all the time!" When it would be entirely possible for them not to be obsessed with sex and not asexual at the same time.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-11-29 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what OP is saying is that there's this common belief in fandom that the ONLY way a woman can care about something more than or as much as getting or keeping a man is

1. She's gay, or
2. She's asexual

That there is absolutely no way a woman can have higher priorities and still be interested in sex with men unless she absolutely doesn't want a man ever. It's... messed up. I'd love to see more representation and most of my ships are femslash, but a lot of headcanons are based on dumb shit like not being able to imagine a woman not being obsessed with the male protag's dick rather than "wouldn't it be cool if?"
Edited 2014-11-29 21:52 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
My head just went... Xena!
I really have to admit that I was shocked after watching a few episodes, that she had sex with/loved guys. I'd totaly assumed that amazon=lesbian.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh sadly yes to your last paragraph. It's very similar to the shit in m/m slash where the people are like "omg, there's no other explanation for why this guy got scared when his best friend was hurt!" rather than "wouldn't it be cool if?"

I know I'll sound silly for saying it, but I've always found it disappointing that slash and femslash fans seem to have just as rigid gender expectations/stereotypes as your average anti-slash het fan, even if their rigid stereotypes are a bit broader. Before I really delved into fandom, I had this weird fantasy in my head where slash fans were these wonderful stereotype-dissolving paragons of open-mindedness.

Call me a grump, but I personally don't see much intellectual progress between "not conforming to gender stereotypes is Wrong and Unnatural" and "not conforming to gender stereotypes is Wrong and Unnatural unless you're gay/lesbian."
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[personal profile] scrubber 2014-11-30 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. I think what the OP said was reasonable, if poorly-stated.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Considering that I have seen people make that assumption about real-life women, I think you're spot on.