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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-08 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2897 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2897 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Prince Eddy was known in his lifetime to be well below even average intelligence and rumored to be suffering (and died from) STDs. I'm not sure it's more likely he would've taken in the Romanovs since it's very likely that he, like George V, would've been strongly advised by his government not to for exactly the same reasons, right or wrong.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
You're actually just repeating some fairly baseless slander about Eddy. There is in fact surviving correspondence by him that proves him to be no less intelligent or compassionate (in fact it seems he was much more so) then his brother. He lived a raunchy lifestyle yes, but no worse than his father's had been. The Royal Family made a point of wiping him out in history (destroying his letters, never mentioning him) because he had the bad luck to be accused of frequenting a male brothel by a man who only played the, "if you arrest me I'll name names" card, and likely barely knew Eddy personally at all. (It worked btw, the guy -- some noble, I forget who -- was never charged, even though he was paying off little boys to do him.)

We'll never know what Eddy would have done, but if he had saved the Romanovs, we could be living in a different world right now.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
His own tutor complained of his laziness and lack of progress, but okay.

"We'll never know what Eddy would have done, but if he had saved the Romanovs, we could be living in a different world right now."

This is pointless speculation. Prince Eddy could've also found the cure for cancer, just like everyone who dies before their time has limitless potential... only not really. Not if you look at things realistically. Do you have an actual reason for why Eddy would've acted against the advice of his government to "save the Romanovs", or are you simply romanticizing a historical figure who died and is therefore a blank slate for a whole host of groundless "what ifs" and "maybes"? So far, I see no reason (even if the testimony of his tutor was "baseless slander") to think that he would've acted with integrity above and beyond anyone else in the royal family at the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
His tutor is hardly a reliable source, the man was well known to be extremely strict, overly critical, and humorless. He said much the same about George.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Well, obviously you know Prince Eddy's true capabilities and temperament than his own personal tutor so all your assertions seem 100% legit.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
*eye roll*

Here's the documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOnX2IDBk8

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well, if a documentary says so then that debate's over. In other exciting news, werewolves are real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBojyMYHwbM&index=10&list=WL

And if werewolves had ruled England, they probably would've saved the Romanovs, too.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
And I suppose the testimony of Eddy's Cambridge tutor citing how he barely knew what the meaning of "to read" was, is also suspect? Weird how both his childhood and his university instructors had such negative reports to make of his abilities.

So far, I'm not seeing the leap between "unfairly criticized" ---> "would've saved the Romanovs". That's not a logical progression at all, and everyone but you seems to grasp this. Even that documentary you cite is more about absolving Eddy of the Cleveland Street Scandal and the Jack the Ripper killings, two reasons nobody in this thread has brought up (except for your own strawmen arguments) as a reason why he wouldn't have been a great king.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-12-09 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have a dog in this fight but - 'lack of progress' and 'laziness' don't = unintelligent. They could mean he had ADHD, dyslexia, or a piss-poor tutor.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
They could, certainly. Nevertheless, there's still quite a lot of testimony from his contemporaries that Prince Eddy was not a man who demonstrated great intellectual gifts or discipline. Even if he was, there's still no reason to believe the previous anon's assertion that he would've saved the Romanovs. That's far too simplistic an understanding of history and the politics of the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-09 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
But seriously, I get you were moved by that documentary and all, and I agree Prince Eddy doesn't deserve ALL of his poor reputation, but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that he would've saved the Romanovs. Come on. That kind of speculation is about as useful as saying, "If Batman were real, he would've been much more likely to take the risk and save the Russian royals and our world would've been sooooo much different now".

Pure speculation, anon. Interesting speculation, but let's not pretend it's anything more than daydreaming, eh?