ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-27 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #356 ⌋

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Notes:

Guys, remember only one secret per comment on the submissions post. It makes it easier to keep track of the number we've received. Thanks!

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Re: 37

(Anonymous) 2007-12-28 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
what the hell does sexuality have to do with cosplay?

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[identity profile] loreamara.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it probably has a little to do with what you're willing to do while in cosplay. I'm not establishing a firm connection, just that the two do overlap, given that you're still a real person in cosplay.

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-30 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
What you mean by 'real'?



Re: 37

[identity profile] loreamara.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
That when in cosplay you're not the character, you're still a person wearing a costume.

Re: 37

(Anonymous) 2007-12-30 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't that contradict the behavior you're most known for in cosplay?
So, what's the purpose of it if you're not in character?

Also curious if you have any response to my posting to the original commenter.

All in all I'm fishing for a better understanding of both groups, the OP and yourself.

Hopefully it doesn't come off as an attack.

Re: 37

[identity profile] loreamara.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"Most known for?" :/

I would maintain that there is a difference between "being the character" and "being in character." I'm well aware of the fact that I do not magically become some fictional character just because I'm wearing clothes that look like theirs, but it is still fun to act like them, or try to, especially around other people in the fandom who like to be around that kind of thing.

As for your posting to the original commenter, I don't know which posting you mean.

I'd be interested to discuss this with you further, but doing so in a public place while you remain anonymous does feel like an attack, and I'd rather not stunt the discussion by getting defensive. Send me an LJ PM, or e-mail me if you know the address. If you'd rather remain anonymous, though, I would guess that this is an attack, albeit a mild one, and I really wasn't expecting one when I made my regrettable comment in the first place.

Re: 37

(Anonymous) 2007-12-30 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
When is one's sexuality not a daily part of life?

Cosplaying should be no exception.
( Please don't claim that no one appreciates other cosplayers at conventions, that connecting with others based on things like sexuality [fanboys looking for congirls] may be why some attend conventions or that relationships and affection do not bud at them. )

We exhibit the sexuality we are; or by theory should.
If someone is feeling like others are not honest or blurring lines in displaying theirs, then a feeling of being alienated and left in a minority is feasible.



Maybe some (the OP) feel as though all the crazy make-out girl on girl LARP sessions, just for fun or to cause fangirl squeeing from the fanservice in others, can make her think that no one is a fellow lesbian and someone that can connect with her & share that attribute.

Anime, cosplaying and specific fandoms are all smaller and smaller ponds a person secludes themselves to. Being restricted to yet another smaller pool of people that behave like her ( lesbian ) is all the more stiffling; certainly if experience has taught her to distrust who is pretending & playing or serious.


It could appear to be a slap in the face to people who have fought discrimination, abuse and violence against them in struggling to deal with achieving or expressing their sexuality.

Having girls giggle, laugh and joke about groping whomever is the character they like as though it's nothing more than a game of tag, only to claim another sexual orientation, might be like a mockery of being a lesbian.
It'd be no less hypocritical for two guys to foddle each other then claim "Dude we're straight as arrows, it's just part of the game!" after they climb out of their football, band, etc garb.


My history with friends and acquaintances who do this support the possible idea that all this lesbian-like behavior is no more an honest questioning of sexuality than drunken groping sessions are for 'bi girls' at bars.


When you hear about the boyfriends, husbands or asexual stance of theirs after they've just had a 'photoshoot' while lip-locking with another woman; it seems to cheapen the whole idea of the purpose of a kiss.