[ SECRET POST #2921 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2921 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[diet_poison]

My way of looking at it is that pirating "wastes" the money of the people who have put resources into creating games and need an income.

I totally understand why that sort of one-sided, irrational lecturing would put you in that frame of mind though. :(

Not to get into a big argument or anything . . .

[feotakahari]

. . . but if you spend X dollars of your income on a DVD, you won't be spending those X dollars at, say, a nice restaurant. From a Utilitarian perspective, you could just as easily argue that the restaurant owner suffers from you paying for the DVD as that the show's creators suffer from you spending the money at the restaurant instead. (The restaurant's owner would indisputably suffer from a dine-and-dash, but that's because you're using up the restaurant's food, not somehow duplicating it.)

Yeah, Utilitarians pretty much have to go socialist or anarchist.

Re: Not to get into a big argument or anything . . .

[diet_poison]

But if you pirate the game that doesn't automatically mean you'll spend it somewhere else. And if you don't buy the game and go out to eat instead, at least you're paying someone for their services.

(I'm not actually that invested in this, just going along with the reasoning)

[dethtoll]

I don't know. A lot of pirates were never ever going to buy the game. There are no "lost sales" because there was no sale going to happen. And at least a few devs feel the same way.

More to the point, the piracy scene is driven by people who like to test their coding skills on cracking copy protection. This is why the retail version of The Witcher 2, which had DRM, was cracked and pirated a lot more than the DRM-free gog.com version. It's all about the cracker cred, and if there's nothing to crack then what's the point?

The irony is that many of these same cracking groups often include the admonishment to buy the game you just torrented if you like it.

[otakugal15]

That's why I find pirating to not be that bad. I like to try something first or, in a few cases, when something isn't available, I will pirate. If I like enough and there isn't a good, legal way to get it (like hulu and Sleepy Hollow), I'll buy it after having pirated.

I have, as an example, the fansubbed version of Sailor Moon S. My favorite season, but Sailor Moon hadn't been available in our country for so long, there was no other way TO get it. Once teh series, in it's full glory, is released over here and I can save up for it, I will totally buy the DVD copies, maybe even the blu-ray if I can save enough (those things are expensive though...).

I just don't see the blind hatred for piracy when the people don't even GET those sales in the first place. They didn't lose anything. They weren't gonna get it period. Now I had been in line, saw something that I was gonna pay for, but didn't like it, and decided to put it back, THAT is a lost sale. Though when do we honestly have a situation like that outside of a bad restaurant experience and maybe a movie sucked?

[dethtoll]

For a long time I actually had ISOs of Thief 1 and 2 as well as System Shock 2 despite eventually acquiring boxed copies of all 3 (as well as a Thief trilogy DVD I found on Amazon) simply because it was more convenient and I didn't have to fuck with a disc that I wanted to keep pristine.

Then they got released on gog.com and that was the end of my ISOs :)

[(Anonymous)]

I live in Sweden. There are lots of dubs I have very fond memories, like the one for Sailor Moon, and I'd love to own them... except we're too small a market. Even in it's hayday SM only got VHS releases up to ep 18 out of 88. You bet your ass I took the chance to pirate the Swedish dub when I found that torrent!

[(Anonymous)]

I use pirating to know if I'm even going to like the game enough to justify a purchase, TBH. I have very limited income, so I'd like to actually know if I'm going to play it enough to actually want to get it.

[diet_poison]

I understand this completely. I think all games should offer a free trial, tbh.