[ SECRET POST #2926 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2926 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really not trying to be a judgmental ass and I apologize if it comes off that way.

My point is that whether or not you want to fangirl about Gone with the Wind, there are issues there and your desire to fangirl about it doesn't trump someone else's desire to think about the issues. I also kind of think you have a responsibility to at least be aware of the issues (as you apparently are) just as a human being but I don't think that should necessarily stop you from fangirling.

[(Anonymous)]

They can think about the issues on their own time and in their own space then, and leave me out of it.

Sometimes I just want to squee about how much I love my favorite things without having a bunch of busybodies coming down on my head about how awful I am for daring to enjoy them. And you are not the fandom police, and you don't get to tell me what I'm "allowed" to like, or that I have a "responsibility" to look at the larger issues. Because you're not, and I don't.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that's an unreasonable desire but I don't think it outweighs the concern with problematic things necessarily. It's fine to want that but when it gets to the point where OP seems to be rejecting the idea entirely and attributing it to people who are just easily offended, I don't think that's correct. Even if there are some people who really are easily offended, because they certainly do exist.

[(Anonymous)]

And, like I say. If people want to "be concerned" about "problematic" things on their own space, they are more than welcome to have at it. That is water off my back.

However, if I'm squeeing about something on my space, and they come in and wring their flappy hands and shit all over it, well, fuck them, honestly. They don't get to try to force me to "be concerned" about it.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Then you are a shitty waste of space who just wants to be able to justify to themselves that their precious feelings trump liking disgusting things.

You like shitty things = you are a shitty person. You can talk and rant and throw your tantrums all you like, but that's what it comes down to in the end. And people are more than allowed to judge the shit out of you for it.

[diet_poison]

That is a really extreme response. Really.

The phrase "shitty waste of space" is losing all meaning. Not that I ever liked "waste of space" but "shitty" is a word that should be usable...

[kallanda_lee]

Aaaaand...you're probably exactly the kind of person the OP is referring to.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, fuck you very much. Your opinion of what constitutes "shitty" does not trump mine. Your own tender fee-fees aside, just because you think something is "problematic" does not automatically make it so. And if you're going to come on to one of my own spaces and shit all over me for daring to like something you think is awful and I don't, then I am going to lay a righteously deserved smackdown on you and possibly block your sorry ass.

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO

[(Anonymous)]

You know what? My feelings absolutely do trump anything you'd feel for me liking disgusting things. Everyone's feelings come first in their own lives. That's how it should be. Just as it's your right to put your own feelings first by cutting ties with people for liking things you find problematic. If it still damages your feelings that somewhere, someone you used to know is enjoying a problematic thing, that's when you have a problem (emphasis on "you").

[(Anonymous)]

Not only that, but my feelings over things I'm squeeing over trump those of some stranger's on the internet. And if some stranger on the internet is that invested in the fact that someone, somewhere, is enjoying something they find "problematic,"--enough that they call them a "shitty waste of space" and actually mean it--then they should probably get that seen to. Because damn, dude, over-react much?

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, this. If it's bothering you that much, there is probably something wrong, and you should get help. And I mean this in the nicest way possible. When I get upset by something I see on the internet, I exit the page. If you can't do that, if you honestly cannot let it go, I feel sorry for you, because I imagine being that outraged all the time is both stressful and tiring.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, let me guess-- and YOU get to decide what's "disgusting," right?

And speaking of throwing tantrums, love...

[stabbystabbyzebra]

Well, either you are not a very good person or you are very good at making caricatures.

Side-eye + eye roll...

[(Anonymous)]

...and insert your favorite Kankri Vantas gif/pic here.

Or a picture of someone flogging a dead horse.

Responsible adults understand that fiction doesn't have to teach morality to them. They understand that fiction doesn't have to have any moral code at all.

Of course, if you'd rather ban Star Wars because Darth Vader is a terrible moral example to us all ( what with blowing up planets and torturing his own daughter, etc. ), I personally won't think you're a shitty person. I'll just eagerly await your arrival at the local locked ward. You must be emotionally overwrought trying to police everyone's taste in fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

You like shitty things = you are a shitty person

While we're at it, lets just assume anyone who writes about rape or murder to any degree or context is actually a rapist or murderer themselves who probably endorse that shit in real life hurrr

We're more than allowed to judge the shit out of you for being so fucking stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

You like shitty things = you are a shitty person.

Wow, if I were trying to sum up the biggest problem with Tumblr fandom, why it's a toxic space full of assholes rationalizing their own bullying, I don't think I could state it more succinctly than that. Nicely done.

[(Anonymous)]

The trouble is that tumblr has very poorly defined space. Very poorly.

[(Anonymous)]

And this is why I go nowhere near that place. Ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. This made a lot more sense to me when you could set up squee!only threads or comms pretty easily, but now I see it a lot more as people considering that any complaint anywhere they stumble across is "their space."

[stabbystabbyzebra]

Is the "flappy hands" thing really necessary?

[(Anonymous)]

...because people in general don't get over-excited about things and flap their hands in an exaggerated manner? Which is all I meant? FFS, my husband does it.

[stabbystabbyzebra]

I'm sorry for misunderstanding, I have just only seen it used in...very insulting ways.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, it was meant to be insulting, but not to any... IDK, group of people? But insulting to people who over-react to minor shit.

Is there a stereotype I don't know about?

[(Anonymous)]

da

If it's any consolation, I do it too. Not autistic, not in any other minority or unpriviledged category. Just wave my hands when I get excited, and get teased about it on a regular basis without thinking it's a personal insult.