[ SECRET POST #2930 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2930 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[silverr]

... Well, yes, there are tags, but there's still endless scrolling past crap that's only marginally related. And it's not like things on tumblr don't get deleted.

(At least with DW you can search the content of posts, which makes finding things so much better.)

If you like tumblr better, good for you. But don't expect everyone to agree with the "it's clearly better" claim.

[othellia]

This. And despite tumblr's claim that you can search multiple tags now, it's still super shoddy, excludes a lot of content, repeats others...

And it kind of makes me wonder what communities OP was a part of because tags were always a big deal on LJ, at least in the comms that collected stuff if not the individual blogs. And it's practically the reverse on tumblr.

Like say you want to go to a shipping page. On tumblr there needs to exist a "fuckyeah[whatever]" which is usually run by one (maybe two) people. If they get bored without appointing another mod then it's automatically dead. Most of the content they get is by them searching for it, so if they miss it then that's it. A lot of them don't tag, or if they do it's usually by super generic "fic".

Now compare that to LJ shipping comms that often had fic broken down into ratings, specific challenges, discussion of all different types... AND their tags were all on one page so you KNEW what you could search for. And all the content was user submitted so it was a much more effective collection place. Oh, and whenever there was a rec thread, almost everything on it was usually amazing.

[esteefee]

It's the difference between being siloed on community and siloed solely on individuals.

FS, e.g., is a community. Tumblr doesn't have any, just loose collections of tags that people may or may not be subscribing to. Probably not, though. So disorganize.

LJ/DW aren't perfect, however. To be more communal, there would be cross-posting (linking) of topics between them. Meaning, if in the fuckyeahangelinajolie DW comm someone started a topic on "Maleficent - Best Movie Ever?", the disney-my-childhood comm-mod could link it in and people could respond to the thread in both comms at once.

[othellia]

Mmm, yeah. That would be an awesome idea.

Like when you make a post, it's under your individual account. And then communities would be a collection of original posts that people could submit to. You'd have your mods, like in tumblr and LJ, and they could decide between free-for-all posting, moderated queue posting, or only them.

Of course the one thing you'd lose with that structure would be the ability to make new posts directly on the community. They'd always have to exist on the individual account first, and then on the community second. Not ideal for personal blogging, but I think if you intended to have a fully fandom platform then it could work.

[esteefee]

I don't see why you couldn't have members of the communities also start posts in the communities. No reason to restrict that. The mods would only have to police whether the material was appropriate or not, just like they do today in some comms.

So posts could either be link-ins or original to the comms.

[diet_poison]

What is that icon from? It's adorable.

[othellia]

It looks like the penguin from Hello Kitty.

[esteefee]

Yis, it's Bad Badtz Maru, my favorite Sanrio character. He doesn't smile! He is bad to the bone. I think he rides a motorcycle. He became so popular Hello Kitty stole his color scheme. Bastard.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I never had the privilege of participating in a shipping comm that had such great organization. And often when I came across them, I was years too late to the fandom and the great organization that it'd had at the beginning had fallen apart with absentee mods and people not bothering (or sometimes unable) to tag their posts.

[othellia]

You poor creature. :(

Can I ask what ships? Because normally I'd say I got lucky with me, but really over 90% of what I'd follow had great organization. It was really rare that it wouldn't.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Me too. I'm staggered at these complaints about LJ. There are other problems with it, but the majority of comms I ever looked at - much less joined/watched/interacted with - used tags extensively. (And consistently, for the most part.)

Re: DA

[othellia]

This.

I mean, sometimes there'd be quirks. I remember being shocked once that this one Doctor Who community didn't have a "girl in the fireplace" tag, wondering how the mods could have made such a huge oversight.

Turns out there was one. Everything was just tagged as "gitface" instead.

[(Anonymous)]

Searching Tumblr is a fucking disaster. I can literally refresh the page on the /search/ page and get a completely different set of results up than the ones I had ten seconds before. Some posts show up, some posts don't, on some kind of whim. I can even search my own name (so I know these posts actually exist) and things appear and disappear randomly.

And don't get me started on tags. Either they're trying to be ironically clever, or they're all using different variations of the same thing (e.g. ship names), or they're being used as some kind of petty game of "let me drop this hate in here just so you'll see it and get mad!" bullshit

[type_wild]

You just made me remember that tags weren't always a thing on LJ, because I distinctly remember them being new and novel and so much easier than archiving by the memory function.

According to google, this revolution happened ten years ago.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess some people still haven't realized that /tagged and /search give you completely different results.

/search gives you everything tagged or not. /tagged filters it down to people who meant to use it.

[silverr]

Speaking just for myself... nope, I had no idea of that (but then I stopped using tumblr before I discovered its crannies and quirks.)

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever anyone says that something is "clearly" the case, it's always not.

[lady_songsmith]

And there's no way to aggregate tags in one place. On LJ/DW, everything you followed was on your friends/reading page. You could split it out if you wanted, but you always had the option to get it all at once. With tumblr, if you want to track the tags for three fandoms and four ships, you have 7 pages to look at individually.

I dunno how fast other people's stuff moves, but I don't have time to look through all the new stuff in the tags I like. (often made worse by the same damn reblogged post turning up 100 times a day) I feel like I'm missing way more of fandom than ever before.

And that's without the loss of meta discussions, which was my favorite part of fandom and is impossible on tumblr. :(

[silverr]

I miss that as well.

As many have said, tumblr is great for pictures, not so great for words... but there are times when I definitely want the "thousand words" instead.