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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-11 03:55 pm

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[personal profile] othellia 2015-01-11 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll take your f-locked content and raise you broken links due to constant URL changes.

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[personal profile] cabler 2015-01-11 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
AO3 is 10000+ times better than ff.net and it is easier to find things on tumblr- but I miss the discussions. None of these platforms are good for it.

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[personal profile] nanslice 2015-01-11 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like a DW/AO3 team.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
LJ fandom is NOT FUCKING DEAD.

SO sick of saying this.

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[personal profile] silverr 2015-01-11 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
... Well, yes, there are tags, but there's still endless scrolling past crap that's only marginally related. And it's not like things on tumblr don't get deleted.

(At least with DW you can search the content of posts, which makes finding things so much better.)

If you like tumblr better, good for you. But don't expect everyone to agree with the "it's clearly better" claim.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of your complaints can be applied to tumblr too. Maybe you don't notice as much since you're a clique or whatever, but I assure you they're still there.

Personally, I can't deal with most fandom people long term and the drama involved so anon communities suit me best.

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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-01-11 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Uuuuuuuuuugh. F-locked content is the worst.

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Well, in LJ you had to go through pages and pages of a community, on Tumblr you have to do exactly the same in the tags while seeing off topic stuff (I'll never forget Bucky the dog, which showed every time I went into the Bucky tag) and personal tumblrs aren't always coherently tagged.

In LJ there was the issue with locked and deleted post, in tumblr the issue is name changes and linked instead of reblogged deleted posts.

And on AO3 if there isn't a good tag wrangler active most stuff is impossible to find. And there's the issue with people non-tagging, over-tagging and miss-tagging that makes impossible to find some things.
And searching through pages and pages is a must just like FF.

And I don't see a big change in the cliques in any site.

So... how has fandom really changed?

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, f-locked posts were the worst especially if the fic or whatever was linked to on a public comm. People who linked to f-locked posts on comms were fucking assholes, but at least some comms flat out prohibited it

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Why are people always glad when something other people enjoy is over? Unless it's something bad, let people enjoy what they enjoy.

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Oh man, I hated f-locked posts.

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Honestly the only improvement is the lack of f-locking. Why the hell did people ever do that.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: Frank the Goat, looking sad.

Text: I’m so glad the days of livejournal fandom are over. It was a horrible archiving system, I had to go through pages and pages of discussion, which were often not tagged. People always deleted their psts, and so much of the content was, or became friend locked. Not to mention most communities were clique-y as they come.

I prefer the tumblr/ao3 dyad than the lj/deviantart/ff.net fandom of yore.

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So you don't think fan creators are allowed to own their own work, decide whom the share it with, and delete it when they wish? Good to know.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of those LJ problems can be fixed by users doing things differently. There's no easy user-fix for making Tumblr a good place for threaded discussion like what we have here and on LJ.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Unpopular opinion: I prefer the community-less nature of tumblr. On LJ I always felt more pressure to make friends and then when I didn't it felt worse. Much less pressure on tumblr.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly I prefer this combo too. Mainly because tumblr is such a terrible place to post fic on that most people do it on AO3. With livejournal you could still post fic even if you can't really ever find it again. Now you can find most fics in one place at very least.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-11 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
...because stuff is always tagged on Tumblr, right?

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, do you people not know how to use tumblr properly? I don't even have xkit; just with tumblr savior I've been browsing all my fandom tags without any problems whatsoever.

Sometimes this community reminds me of my dad. He's allergic to new technology and gives up after two seconds of using something, complaining about how annoying it is.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I mainly disagree. I liked LJ. I like tumblr. I prefer AO3. I like a combination of all! But I agree that fic should NOT be posted on tumblr. And if it is, put it under a damn cut.

Okay, my biggest hatred about LJ is how it switches to daily archive after going back /450 posts or something. It's impossible to browse larger comms like that. :/
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[personal profile] xenomantid 2015-01-11 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'm saying this because I'm what some people would describe as mono-fannish, but I agree. The graphic-centered design of Tumblr makes the site a bad discussion platform, but LJ always left something to be desired, too. If it means anything, I never discuss my one fandom on Tumblr, and yet AO3 contains the sort of fics I've always wanted to see about said fandom.

Also, friends-locked posts are exasperating, and LJ never should have instituted rules that would make anyone want to friends-lock their posts.
Edited (I forgot something.) 2015-01-11 23:10 (UTC)
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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-01-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
F locked content on abandoned accounts. Whhyyyyy.

All the Unfriending friending mutual friends and not drama. Nooooo.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2015-01-11 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
F-locked posts were so annoying, and I used to see so many users that would leave a post open for a day and then lock them afterwards. And this wasn't anything with potentially risky content either, just regular fic or art that was only available for 24 hours without friending the user in question.

(But I will say that I liked having locked comms for certain content and I do kind of wish that was available on other sites).

Now stuff being deleted, that you can't account for and no site will be able to counter it and tbh creators have the right to take what they've made offline at any point. It might suck a bit but I can't really complain about it.

But there are things I like and dislike about both sites.

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I prefer DA's search system for art over tumblrs. You can put in multiple words for the search and come up with art you want to find. Tumblr only one or two words in the search which you will end up with hundreds to scroll through or put in more words and get nothing.

And with the AO3 vs FFNet...at least I can find non crossover fics much easier at FFNet.

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