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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-11 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2930 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2930 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Raped. Ravishment = rape.

DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought ravishment = forced sex that that you like and rape = forced sex that you don't like? I always see people bitching 'I thought this was a rape story, why did they start liking it halfway?' so proper labeling here would help, especially since it seems a fuckton of people love ravishment.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: DA

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-11 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think ayrt is deliberately trying to stir the pot. We've wanked about this specific topic several times (I think anon was trying to reignite it; I wish they'd waited until a post more conducive to it honestly) but those are in fact two different words that mean different things.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon was clearly and deliberately trying to stir the pot about it. It's like if I ended this post by talking about how demisexuals don't exist or something.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
but they don't

;)

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree that they don't.

It's clearly all part of an attempt by Israelis to oppress Palestinians.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-12 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
By whitewashing, of course!

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Couldn't we just use the dubcon / noncon language? Isn't that conceptually clearer?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-12 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't "dubcon" have to do with an outside perspective? In the mind of the person engaging in the act, wouldn't it be a bit more defined as consensual or not? (having not had sex, I cannot say for sure)
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-12 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen dubcon be used for stuff like drunk sex etc as well. Or stories where you don't know consent happened. Or where there is consent, but the circumstances make you think consent might not have been made in a sound state of mind.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-12 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
ah, my comment was not worded well at all. I meant like I think perhaps dubcon as a concept is more useful in fic than in RL applications.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-12 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, that is true!
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-11 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
2/10 way too blunt.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't the last shitstorm on the topic here pushing exactly for that?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-12 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Pushing for what? Not sure what you mean.