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So here's my thinking. If the original work is in the public domain, then anyone can translate it, so even if a translator makes money from their translation, once the commercial success (if any) of their translation is decades in the past, I don't think the cops will be beating down your door and demanding you stop giving out free copies.

If there is no copyright notice, nor Library of Congress Catalog number (will be a numeric string between five and six digits--that should give you copyright info as well, search on LCCN at loc-dot-gov), anywhere on any of the flyleaves, you should be kosher. Also check if the book is available on archive-dot-org, if it is, for sure it's out of copyright.

Here is some general info on determining copyright status:
http://copyright.gov/circs/circ22.pdf

I'm not sure if that's helpful? Sorry for the weird addresses, DW won't let me post more than one URL anon.

Oh, I'm not worried about the legal consequences. I really don't think there would be any. I'm just having a bit of a moral crisis re:digital piracy.

I did search the LoC catalogue available on Google Books, and, to my puzzlement, did not find anything. Maybe I did something wrong. It should be there, seeing as it was published prior to 1978?

But I will get my hands on a hard copy in the near future, I think, so if that's the only sure way to check if it's copyrighted, I will be able to use it.

Thank you, though :)

Is this the book: http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=22304&recCount=25&recPointer=2&bibId=7509673

The published date shown is 1963 and it was catalogued by the LOC in 1963 because the LCCN begins with 63.

And you can search the LOC online catalog directly (you said you looked via googlebooks?) at catalog.loc.gov

Thank you!! I was a bit confused about how the catalogue system works - some sources said that the bit of the catalogue prior to 1978 is only available through googlebooks. Indeed, this is the book.

I had to look into this a bit, as I use the LOC for cataloguing books in my own library, but being a school library, it's all fairly recent stuff.

Also, in their FAQ, I found this, which may be what's confusing you? :
"Records for works registered with the Copyright Office after 1978 are searchable in the Copyright Catalog. Card entries for some items cataloged before 1980 are only available to researchers onsite in the Library's Main Card Catalog."

Okay, so I think we're looking at two different databases here. The full cataloguing information is what you get from LOC Online Catalog (which is what people like me, cataloguers/librarians want). BUT there's also the Copyright Office Catalog, which has it's own searchable database here (for works registered AFTER 1978 only): http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First

I found your book, and the if I read the record correctly, the copyright was renewed in 1991, so yeah, it won't be out of © for a while yet.
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=13&ti=1,13&Search_Arg=Eugene%20Onegin&Search_Code=TALL&CNT=25&PID=oM7kCwJMkfe3547l6uS9qdVKrlF-&SEQ=20150112160817&SID=2

And hey, I learned something new looking this up. I've never had any need to use anything but the main online catalogue; it's cool they have just the © thing as well.

I see now. Yes, I was looking at the other catalogue :) Thanks; I'm bookmarking this thread in case I ever need to do a check of this kind again.

(So you're a librarian? That's cool! I mean, I guess it can be a fairly boring/exhausting job to some people, but as a literature lover, I have a great fondness for the profession).

You're welcome, glad I was able to help you out.

I'm actually a Library Technician (difference is the amount of education and thus pay, one receives after said education; librarians have a Bachelor's degree of some sort along with an MLS, Master of Library Sciences; LTs have a 2 year community college diploma.) I run three school libraries atm, all elementary schools, so yeah, it can be tiring--especially since I'm the only library staff in those schools and am responsible for all areas of running it. I think it's like most jobs--some days it rocks, other days, not so much.

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