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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-20 08:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2939 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2939 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-21 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Which male characters are you referring to?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-21 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Patrick Bateman, Tyler Durden, Humbert Humbert, the entire Corleone family...

(Anonymous) 2015-01-21 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen ppl hold them up as interesting characters but i have never seen anyone hold them up as an "Icon for men".
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-21 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Who the hell holds Patrick Bateman as an icon? Actually, who the hell holds Humbert Humbert as an icon and doesn't get the living shit mocked out of him on the Internet? (I'll give you Tyler Durden, at least . . .)
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-21 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I wrote a paper on Lolita once. I... ran into a good few scholarly articles that were all about how Dolores seduced and tortured the poor guy, and how this put a new sympathetic spin on child molestation.

I'm pretty sure Nabokov screamed into his pillow at night over that.
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-21 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
PRETTY MUCH.

Seriously, Humbert Humbert is reprehensible. In my opinion, the weakness of the more recent movie, the one with Jeremy Irons, was that it hewed too closely to Humbert's bullshit narrative.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-21 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest, I haven't actually read Lolita. I just ran across an argument on the Internet over whether or not he was evil. One person argued that he was, and to prove it, quoted a passage where

(Insert Oh dear God warning for anyone who hasn't read the book yet)

Humbert talks about how he wants to get Lolita pregnant as soon as possible. That way, by the time she's grown too old for him and he's no longer interested in her, their daughter can be his new Lolita.

I still think that's the most fucked-up thing I've ever read.
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-21 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually not an uncommon thing child-molesters, especially incestuous ones, do. They romanticize it into spawning legacies and keeping their seed within the family, that kind of bullshit. So that part is actually totally true to life.

I try to avoid using the word 'evil' just because it gets thrown around a lot, but in my opinion, such people are festering sores on the ass of humanity.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-21 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
yep, full betray by blood. shithell...

(Anonymous) 2015-01-21 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
I seem to recall watching a show recently about a chap that people liked a lot. It might have been called... Breaking... Bad?