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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-23 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2942 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2942 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Girlish Grimoire: Littlewitch Romanesque, linked for (animated) porn, underage]














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[personal profile] fscom 2015-01-23 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well…maybe your standards changed after ten years?

Also, I am amused at the fact that you go from "such good slash fic" to "mediocre het novels."

Maybe because I, personally, have found that there's more good slash fic than het fic. (Just my opinion there, though)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Lol

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Money.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-24 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Beat me to it, anon. MONEYDOLLAR$. Makes the world go round!

(Plus writing fanfiction is fucking HARD. I don't care what anyone says, it is hard as hell and I'd rather not for free.)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. You know, quite a few awesome fanfic writers go on to write published fiction. But their audience doesn't necessarily follow them because it's not fandom. If ex-fanfic writers want a larger audience, they'll need to cater to more mainstream, non-fandom tastes. It's sort of a vicious circle.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know one, in fact; she wrote fantastic het fanfic, and writes m/m pro. And hates that her pro stuff isn't mainstream enough to make people want to read it, since she writes fantasy/SF m/m, which isn't want m/m readers seem to want (but fandom does but doesn't seem to want to pay for m/m, so let's just round and round that vicious circle).

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, that sounds like it would be relative to my interests?

Like, I like m/m (and f/f) but I actually give zero fucks about cowboys and businessmen and athletes (BORING!), which was all I could find when I was looking for published m/m fiction.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
If people want published slash novels, they'll have to buy them and show publishing companies that slash is a marketable commodity. But they don't, because there's tons of slash for free on the internet.

So instead, you're going to get mediocre het novels, because people pay money for them.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-24 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, there ARE M/M publishers. Circlet Press, Less Than Three, Cleis has some... I know, because I've been meaning to submit things to them. They're a fairly new and growing thing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I know. They're not what I'd call mainstream publishers and not widely available in brick and mortar stores or libraries the way OP's mediocre het novels are, though.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-24 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
That, I can not deny, alas. The gay bookstore has become mostly a thing of the past, though a few hang on.
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[personal profile] purpleseas 2015-01-24 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
M/M definitely doesn't sell like het does, but it's been around for a few years now and people do buy it. Here's the gay chart at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Gay-Fiction/zgbs/books/10169/ref=zg_bs_nav_b_4_10165

The straight chart: http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Romance/zgbs/books/23/ref=zg_bs_nav_b_1_b

Sales rankings explained: http://blog.karenwoodward.org/2013/08/amazon-sales-ranking-explained.html

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
So basically, you're just bitching because writers' published work is het instead of slash?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's a totally legitimate reason.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
that seems legit to me. And it's reality too.

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-01-24 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Any recs for interesting novels by fic writers?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-01-24 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Cat shifters sound good. Is it good?http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=5884
Did you like anything there in particular?

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-24 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Image: cartoon of Yoda reading

Text: 1st year reading fanfiction: “Why do all these amazing writers waste their time writing such good slash fanfic when they could be writing real novels?”

10th year reading fanfiction: “Why do these amazing writers waste their time writing mediocre het novels when they could be writing more fanfic?”