[ SECRET POST #2946 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2946 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Confessions

[iceyred]

You're free to think my beliefs are stupid. It doesn't bother me any which way.

But if you start following me around blathering about how my beliefs are stupid then we're gonna have a problem.

Re: Confessions

[(Anonymous)]

No, I get that. I think militant atheists that go and harass people on, say, religious online forums are dicks.

But I'm not going to treat your beliefs as sacred. To me, they're the equivalent of the anti-vaccine movement. I don't respect them and I think they're full of crap.

If you want to believe that, though, it's completely up to you. I just don't particularly appreciate being called racist because of it.

Re: Confessions

[iceyred]

For what it's worth, I think militants of any flavor tend to be dicks.

It's your right to believe whatever you want, be that in God, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or nothing. As long as you respect my right to believe whatever I want and don't harass me, we're golden.

Re: Confessions

[(Anonymous)]

but there's a significant difference between religious belief and anti-vaxx

(one of them is provably full of shit and harmful; one of them is arguably but not provably full of shit and harmful)

Re: Confessions

[(Anonymous)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Bit of a difference there between the many people who just simply go about their day practicing their religion (which is often a hugely personal thing), and that asshole Andrew Wakefield.

Why are you getting called racist? What sparked that?

Re: Confessions

[(Anonymous)]

Charlie Hebdo discussion.

I said that Muslims have the right to be offended but people have the right to make fun of Islam.

Apparently this is racist.

Which pissed me right the fuck off because I'm ARAB. And NO. Making fun of Islam is NOT racism.

Re: Confessions

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but you realize that it's about more than just "making fun of Islam", right? France is one of the most virulently anti-Islamic countries in the EU, and they're not shy about it. The response to the Charlie Hebdo attack was one of extreme hatred towards Muslims-- I think it was something like 26 mosques were attacked just in the first couple of days? Like, with firebombs, grenades, severed pigs' heads.

So sure, yes...you're allowed to make fun of Islam. But doing so in that context is literally spitting in the face of those already downtrodden and in fear.

Whether or not it's racist is splitting hairs: it's an asshole thing to do.

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[(Anonymous)]

You said it best.

Secondly, this is for the OP of this debate: I'll respect someone who does not believe as long as they respect that I do believe even if you think it's dumb. Say it's dumb all you want on the street, but if you come into my church and start talking about how stupid it is, I will turn around and tell you to get out of God's house and make your mockery of it outside.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Well, sure. A church is private property.

But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people giving me shit and calling me a racist for saying that while Muslims have the right to be offended, people have the right to make cartoons about Mohammed and ridicule Islam.

And that's not racist.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

What if OP went to Westboro Baptist Church and called their beliefs dumb?

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

It'll get very noisy very fast.