[ SECRET POST #2948 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2948 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like that's just a trope of adventure stories in general. I don't think it makes sense to get mad at Rose for that. Or the Doctor, for that matter (and why is he immune from your wrath?).

OP:

[(Anonymous)]

The Doctor isn't immune to my wrath. I didn't like Ten from the beginning. He struck me as a big arrogant jerk from the moment he deposed Harriet Jones.

But up until that moment, I had loved Rose. So there was a real sense of loss.

Re: OP:

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough, I guess (I hated the Harriet Jones thing too, even though I mostly like Ten). I still don't think this specific thing is a huge issue given the genre that Doctor Who is in, but fair enough.

Re: OP:

[othellia]

I love Ten, but I still hate what he did to Harriet Jones. It's my single most hated thing about all of Davies' era.

Re: OP:

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's edged out for me by the Doctor's wiping Donna's brain while she was begging him not to, but it's definitely in my top two want to punch the Tenth Doctor moments.

Re: OP:

[were_lemur]

That was me, wanting to punch the Tenth Doctor for what he did to Donna and/or Harriet, btw.

Re: OP:

[othellia]

See, I can kind of get behind the Donna thing. It made sense in a "I need to do this thing or my friend will die" way. At the same time, there was nothing saying RTD had to end Donna's story that way, so yeah.

So what happened to Donna was worse from an out-of-universe standpoint, but what happened to Harriet was worse from an in-universe standpoint, especially given what happened later with Harold Saxon and Children of Earth.

Re: OP:

[were_lemur]

I can see that. (Especially since he KNEW that she was supposed to bring about a new golden age and decided "you know, fuck everyone who would have benefited from that, I think I'll just be petty because she wouldn't just obey me.")

Re: OP:

[ketita]

I pretend really really hard that the Harriet Jones thing didn't happen.

[(Anonymous)]

They were both such insufferable jackasses in this episode. Each as bad as the other.

I liked Rose better with Nine.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, it's perfectly reasonable to think they're irritating jackasses, I'm just not sure OP's logic follows on that specific point.

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree.

[(Anonymous)]

I liked Rose better with Nine too! Not such a fan of Ten.

[(Anonymous)]

I have headcanons about Rose and Ten wherein Rose was seriously psychologically damaged by the whole Bad Wolf thing and Ten was mostly unconsciously enabling her epic "not dealing" by letting her turn "the Doctor's Companion" into her entire identity, thus turning them into a creepily codependent, obnoxious pseudo-couple. It doesn't make them less annoying to watch, but makes it a more interesting train wreck.

[philstar22]

I so agree. Ten and Rose brought out the worst in each other. Rose was better with Nine and Ten was better with Donna.

[were_lemur]

EVERYTYHING is better with Donna.

[(Anonymous)]

Except for farewells... *shiver*

[(Anonymous)]

I loooooove Rose with Nine.

With Ten? She's Adric.