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fandomsecrets2008-01-03 07:32 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-01-03 07:32 pm
[ SECRET POST #363 ]
⌈ Secret Post #363 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Posting for Liz, who has been kidnapped by aliens again.
Happy 1 year of existing, f!s!
Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 50 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 ] broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] personal attack.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, January 4th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: OP of 21
(But of course not; you already admitted to that. And one now wonders, if you don't understand us, then why are you attempting to tell us our position is stupid- you don't get it. If I actively dismissed the everyone whose opinions I didn't understand, I'd be living in my bedroom permanently.)
Does that sound normal? No, it sounds WEIRD.
Dude, people don't have to have their sexual fantasies approved by you. I find a lot of things sexy that you might find "weird"-- and vice versa! Sexual fantasies are all about personal taste and idealized situations; in other words, they're fantasies.
And having sexual fantasies doesn't mean that someone's living in a fantasy world. No, I might never have sex with a dog demon or a gunslinger or a ninja or a pirate, or whatever. And all those women who DON'T watch anime will never be part of a harem, kidnapped by dark handsome strangers, forced to go down on another girl, or whatever. EVERYONE has fantasies, and yes, those sexual fantasies may be inspired or fueled by things people have read or seen-- fictional things.
Honestly, I find it a bit "weird" that you picked jrockers to represent your...thing. Like band members and lead singers and actors don't put on a front to the public! Like the act you see them put on is anything more than an act! The people you "know" them to be is at least as fictional as any character in a fictional tv show (animated or not).
That's why it's all just fantasy.
And if it's wrong to live in a fantasy world for ten minutes...
...er,
...thirty minutes...
(or more)
...while I jack off, then I'm ok being wrong!
Suck it up; deal with it; and move on! I might never have sex with a squad of hot underaged ninga, but you can never change my mind about what turns me on-- get over it.
Re: OP of 21
(Anonymous) 2008-01-04 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)The secrets about people masturbating to a goddamn picture of Naruto in a screencap is odd. If you're gonna go masturbate to a drawing, at least do it to a hentai, yaoi, yuri whatever that it would make sense to.
I don't care if people find my opinion weird or disgusting, whatever, that's their opinion. My opinion is that touching yourself to paper & ink is odd, & that's why I made the secret.
Re: OP of 21
Just because those characters aren't 3-D doesn't mean that I can't find something that I like about them, something in them that inspires me, something that turns me on. I can find traits in those characters that I can relate to, that I like to see in myself and in others; they exemplify the type of people that I am strongly attracted to or even wish to be myself.
One might argue that characters can become more real to us than "real" people in our daily lives-- in fact, it's be argued that is the point of fiction, period.
"One requisite of great writing is the ability to make a character come alive. By that we mean a capacity to go beyond the artful manipulation of words into the creation of a person who transcends the printed page. Who can claim that Melville's Captain Ahab or Dostoevski's Zossima are not in some intelligible sense 'real persons,' perhaps more real to us than some of the people in our daily lives? Such characters come off the page to converse with the reader; they seem to know us and our secrets at least as well as we know them; they reveal us to ourselves in ways not possible through simple self-analysis. Characters such as these are not mere projections of our psychological needs; they are independent selves capable of entering relationships. As Jung once said, 'It is not Goethe who creates Faust, but Faust which creates Goethe.' We discover the autonomy of such characters when they tell us things about ourselves we would rather not hear!"
-- Parker J. Palmer, To Know As We Are Known
Further:
I don't care if people find my opinion weird or disgusting, whatever, that's their opinion. My opinion is that touching yourself to paper & ink is odd, & that's why I made the secret.
I don't find it disgusting. I find it silly. And that if you think that jerking off to paper and ink is "weird", then I don't recommend buying stock in Playboy, as all it is is paper and ink. And a multibillion dollar business.
Re: OP of 21
(Anonymous) 2008-01-04 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)that whole paragraph, I totally respect that. I agree with you on that. Like, I love Kenshin's personality & I would love a guy that had a personality just like his. But, just because I love Kenshin, doesn't mean I'm going to go masturbate to his picture.
Is playboy animated? o_O I understand like yeah, nude models. When I mean paper & ink I mean people actually drawing out a character, I'm not talking about a photograph. Really, I don't know much about playboy so if there's drawings in there that people get off to...ah, ok. not my thing, would never do that. photographs I find different. *shrug*
i wasn't planning to buy stock there anyways xP
Re: OP of 21
That's because we're different.
But just because we're different doesn't mean that you can be insulting, saying that everyone who isn't like you is "weird" and "living in a fantasy world."
The reason you got everyone on your case-- since you STILL don't seem to realize it-- was because you were insulting to everyone you don't understand, which covers a lot of ground and a lot of people.
There's not a whole lot of difference (to me, anyway) between an obviously airbrushed photo that displays more Photoshopping skill than photographic ability and natural beauty and a beautifully rendered drawing. Often, one might argue, the drawing is more realistic than what passes as photos in today's nude magazines! (And that's not even mentioning the oh-so fake-sounding "profiles" that they put with these images, an attempt to give those airbrushed beauties some "personality-- what a joke! They have all the personality of a blow-up doll. Give me a Photoshopped piece of artwork of my favorite kick-ass female character any day of the week!)
Whether you're just oblivious to sarcasm or deliberately obtuse, my point was that when you say something as dippy as [m]y opinion is that touching yourself to paper & ink is odd, you have to consider the full reach of what you're saying. Photographs and drawings are BOTH paper and ink.