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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-04 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2954 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2954 ⌋

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-05 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, who's older than 30 in anime? If you're counting games, Phoenix Wright comes to mind--he's 34 in the most recent game.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yet another reason why the Phoenix Wright games are great. There's characters in them of all ages. The main playable characters are usually mid-twenties at least because they're supposed to be lawyers, but there's also kids, teens, middle-aged and many fantastic characters in their sixties.

In anime, Kotetsu from Tiger & Bunny is late 30s, as are a few of the other main characters.

In Attack on Titan there are several characters around 30 or over although a lot of them are dead by now because the death count is crazy.

The two main male characters in Cowboy Bebop, Spike and Jet Black, are late 20s - mid 30s.

But in general, in anime it's hard to find main characters that aren't early teens. I couldn't even think of one single woman in anime who isn't just a side character. That's depressing.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-02-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
The two main male characters in Cowboy Bebop, Spike and Jet Black, are late 20s - mid 30s.

Wait, is this official? From his history (and severe baldness) I thought Jet was in his 40s. (Late 20s-mid 30s sounds right for Spike, though.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
As one of the biggest Ace Attorney fans you'll ever meet, let me say: the games' age distribution is not something to brag about. Yes, Phoenix is 34 in Dual Destinies - but only because the game is set ten years after the game his character was designed for. Notice that Apollo's 22 at his first appearance, and Athena is only 18 at hers.

The supporting characters do range in age, but only if you're looking at the men. In AAI2, there's a minor female character who's 60 years old (and looks like she's 80; meanwhile, there's a major 67-year-old male character in the same case who looks like he's in his 50s at most) and another who doesn't seem to age. Aside from them, the ONLY female character over 40 in the entire series who isn't a mother or mother figure and the ONLY female character over 60, period, is Oldbag. And technically we don't even know how old she is. Meanwhile, there are a bunch of dynamic and plot-important male characters over 60.

But it's true that Ace Attorney is better in that way than a lot of anime, and that's pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
What about Plum Kitaki? She must be 30-40-50 and she's awesome in her own right.

Aura Blackquill is 37. Sister Bikini is 48.

Misty Fey? Morgan Fey? It's really not that hard to find middle aged female characters in the game.

Although what's wrong with being a mother? As long as it's not the character's only function, but the Ace Attorney games rarely do that. I think you're being harsh. In most anime you're hard pressed to find major female characters even over 28.

And Wendy Oldbag is fantastic.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's because you don't watch much anime. There are several shows with a woman main character.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Although I notice you didn't name a single example.
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[personal profile] silverr 2015-02-05 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
There are a number of older folks in Saint Seiya, though I suppose magically-extended lifespan ought not to count. :p
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
The numbers go up exponentially if you add characters who're supposedly hundreds of years old, but look and act like hot sixteen-year-olds. (Or weirdly sexualized ten-year-olds, but let's not go there.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Every single 'old' female anime character I could think of had been aged up in this way. Ugh. Creepy. It would be fine if it wasn't such a trend.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-05 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, man. That series really seems to like them young these days.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-05 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Confession time: I was the one who did that ragey secret after finding out that the partner in the next game will be a an eight-year-old with a medical PhD.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-05 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
H
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I forgot that detail, thanks for the reminder. Kinda wish every new character didn't have to be a gimmicky genius, but mostly I just wish I could have an adult woman feature as an assistant by now.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-05 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I saw someone argue that Athena was the assistant in the latest game. I don't think that's true, though--the earlier games were centrally about Phoenix even when the plot shifted toward's Maya's family, but Dual Destinies is centrally about Athena.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-05 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
She gets relegated to the assistant/damsel role in what should be her game imo, rather just being about her. Athena is the furthest thing from an enjoyable character for me, and I do give props for the depiction of PTSD freezing her at points, and multiple leads is a good idea in theory here, but DD flaked on her imo.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-05 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I blame Apollo Justice. Phoenix is played out as a main character, because he's grown so much and had so many experiences that there's not much left for him to learn, but shifting over to a younger protagonist led to fan backlash. With the fifth game, they tried to have it both ways, telling the story of a new character while interacting with that story mostly through the old character, and it wound up being a bit hit-or-miss.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-05 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely AJ's. What would have been a new game with a new cast ended up bogged down trying to fit Phoenix so previous fans would still come back, and all it really did was create loose ends regarding the character. Despite the game actually being about him and his revenge/law reformation quest, in a period of his life that isn't focused on those in the trilogy, people were upset with the way Phoenix was put in.

Tbf, DD's localization is carefully pitched as a Phoenix title, and he actually features fairly little. But hey apparently people love the hell out of half-assed cameos and characters who never change (peaaarrrl) just so you know they exist around Phoenix.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-05 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually have ranted a bit about the whole 'prodigy' thing in media. I find it really frustrating, especially since I've met some people who honestly compare themselves to these fictional prodigies. I want to read about OLD people, not the same coming of age story over and over!

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure any of these have official ages, but anime-wise, I thought the main characters of Monster, Black Heaven, Master Keaton, and Golgo 13 were 30+ (or they're very skilled/midlife-crisis-y for their age); maybe the Major from Ghost in the Shell.

Like anon below, I had trouble thinking of a main female character besides the Major that's 30+ and looks/acts it, at least in anime (though I'm more familiar with manga, in general... more examples come to mind there, but mostly within group ensembles or one-shots).