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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-05 07:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2955 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2955 ⌋

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[personal profile] purpleseas 2015-02-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's an educational show, true. :D

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
What is going on in this scene? Is it slashy? I mean, you know. Academic interests.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I guess some people found it hot, but for me, it was one of the most heartbreaking scenes in the show. Will basically has an emotional breakdown and then a seizure.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
fwiw the emotional breakdown was most likely several simple partial seizures fucking up his emotional centers, which were building up to a complex-partial seizure.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
... that... doesn't really make it better. Poor Will. :(
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-06 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
If you can dig slash fic with dark tones, psychological torture, or dubiously consensual (or outright nonconsensual) overtones, you would probably certainly enjoy how slashy this show is. Even if you don't see the slash, it's hard to not see the chemistry and intense moments these two have. hell, my little sister is somehow becoming a shipper and frequently goes all, "He needs to shove the food off the counter and fuck him on the counter D:<"
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[personal profile] thistlechaser 2015-02-06 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The chemistry in this show is amazing. I've often said I'd happily watch a whole hour of a close up of their faces as the two talk. There's that much going on! Tiny little muscle twitches and movements, eye contact, the way they pause in breathing. It's just so amazing.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is a great moment of YMMV, because to me it felt very... gentle? Calm? But this is largely because I have done exactly what Will did, which was have a seizure in public, and I remember to some degree one of the EMTs taking me through a stroke test.

Like idk, but the music paired with Will's behavior and visual are like spot on for postical, personally. And I guess it helped me put into place the experience, because I had no idea why these people were telling me to do these random ass things, until I saw this episode, and realized it was a stroke test.

I dunno I feel like I'm going to be in the minority here.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Are you saying its not creepy for you? Which is fine, different strokes and all, but I would say it being creepy isn't based on Will, but on Hannibal, since basically he spends the whole season mentally torturing Will only to then turn it around and play his savior. So like, not so much the scene itself, but the context of the scene.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Even in context, it wasn't that creepy for me. Granted, Hannibal is a giant asshole for many reasons, but his handling of Will's seizure in that instance would not be one of them for me.

It showed a medical professional (who is yes, also a serial killer), gently making sure that the seizure wasn't due to a high fever that led to a stroke, that could end up destroying part of his brain.

Like, it could have been filmed so many different ways, all multiplying the sense of horror, but for me, being gentle and considerate to someone after they've had a seizure will always predispose me toward more kindly feelings.

I've been in way too many situations where people have not known what to do, and their panic translates to frustration or even anger at the person having the seizure (me). Or misinterpretation that the person is dangerous because they're behaving erratically (very very very false), when they're actually in danger themselves.

(Spoilers! Yeah, Hannibal was the one who ended up essentially giving Will a seizure disorder to begin with, and that is many kinds of awful, fucked up, abusive creepy, but that one scene made me feel better, as someone with a seizure disorder myself.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
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I find the fact Hannibal can be ridiculously gentle & caring more terrifying than the times he's doing scary things.
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[personal profile] purpleseas 2015-02-06 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
This is a really interesting insight, and I hope you're around better-prepared people in the future. He can be a good doctor when necessary and a good psychiatrist when he wants to be. To me, that's the tragic part of him. He's very happy the way he is and will never be like, oh woe is me if only I could stop eating people, so it's not that kind of tragedy, it's more like a lost potential thing. He could do so much good with all that intelligence and hypercompetence, but something went wrong in there at some point and here we are. I feel like he has patients he never did anything awful to who are just going to be in denial about the whole serial killer thing and try to keep up their appointments after he's caught, lol.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I looked up exactly what "postical" meant because I don't think I've ever heard of it before. I came across a Youtube video of someone in that state after a seizure and shit, that seems awful.

I definitely see how this could seem almost like a form of closure for you. I'm glad I know that this exists and a little of what to expect in the slight chance I watch someone have a seizure and need to help them afterwards (because I'm the kind of person to panic if I have no idea what's going on and I definitely don't want to be another stress on someone who just had a fucking seizure)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Postictal state is pretty fucking terrifying. And it can be painful, depending on what kinds of seizures people have. I get massive headaches, my entire right side feels like it's been hit with sticks, and I tend to be more confused than Will seemed to be. Also talking is almost impossible. And I have no idea where I am, or what is going on.

Visibility for seizure disorders, especially in terms of accuracy, and what you can do for people afterwards, was a pretty huge thing for me. Mostly they're scary to watch, so the media either ignores them or uses them for self-serving purposes, but they tend to forget that the seizure is like 1000% scarier for the person having it.

To have a seizure appear in the middle of a non-cable nighttime TV show, and have the aftercare shown as something not scary, but something gentle, was a really big thing for me.

And thank you for going out of your way to educate yourself! I really appreciate it, because 99% of the time, people have no idea what's going on. And other people panicking is actually kind of a freak out for me, because depending on how conscious I am, I end up apologizing for scaring them, adding to the shame of having a health episode in public, or getting scared myself.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-06 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I know how that is, ending up feeling like you have to apologize for bothering people after a health crisis. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-06 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually started reading about epilepsy for a writing project, and ended up doing a little learning about how to deal if someone is having a seizure. I still don't know how GOOD at it I'd be, but at least I wouldn't get the person hurt.

(This was also partly inspired that I was once on a bus where someone DID have a seizure, and although it , I was kinda alarmed that I had no idea what to do. Nobody on the bus seemed to have a clue either, but one guy did gently touch the dude's arm afterward and be like, you okay? Do you want a doctor? So at least we weren't dicks, but still. Good enough reason for me to do some learning.)

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unsolicitated advice, anyone?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Keep calm and clear the area.

If you ever find yourself in a situation with someone having a grand mal seizure, basically make sure the area stays clear so they don't hit themselves on anything, keep them awake after, and don't give them anything to eat or drink -- even water. Stomachs are VERY sensitive afterwards, and it's almost a guarantee they'll vomit. I usually call emergency services, too, just in case it's their first (3/5 times it's been their first, and the other 2 were friends who'd already been in hospital several times).

One friend had seizures really often, and she said the scariest part was people freaking out around her, because she could hear everything that was happening around her. On the other hand, the other never remembers anything after a grand mal.

Huh, I feel like I've done this a lot...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Man, sometimes I consider watching this show just for the potential slashiness.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
As long as you like your slash fucked up! (I know I do.)

And you can handle gore ofc.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
OT, he looks like Antony Hopkins in the bottom pic

Transcript

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Image: Will and Hannibal smiling creepily at each other

Text: I will never forget how to check for a stroke

because of this creepy scene

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-02-06 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Signs of a stroke are different for men and women, btw.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Women smell buttered toast! :D