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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-08 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2958 ]


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Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think your views are broadly right and theirs are broadly unreasonable. If that's worth anything. In particular, this:

And when I pointed out some studies showing that quite a few women have such fantasies, they said that it was only college-aged women and then remarked that they were glad not to be in college anymore and this is why feminism can't gain any traction.

is some... remarkably specious reasoning.

Of course, there are probably times when it's better to be a little cautious about bringing it up just because it's such a sensitive topic, but I don't think you're a rape apologist or trying to minimize rape.

Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't understand it, I pointed out that some women, in the context of sex, like to be whipped or spanked or have hooks pushed into their bodies (or other things that make me, personally cringe), but that doesn't mean that they support domestic violence or child abuse.

And they took that and said how I had lost them when I said "it's fine" for women to enjoy having positive fantasies of being raped and all the cutters they knew were in the hospital.

And I was incredibly hurt by their implications.

Re: Rape Fantasies and...Rape Apologism?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this is really late and probably won't be seen, but:

Isn't telling any individual what they are permitted to like or enjoy the opposite of freedom? I'm putting this very badly, I'm sorry, but who the hell are your friends to determine what is normal or acceptable for anyone to fantasize about?

Most ravishment/rape fantasies are an example of topping from the bottom, aren't they? I wouldn't imagine that the person fantasizing is picturing the actual outcome of a violent assault (pain, injuries, police, etc) unless they had a specific kink for those factors. What gives anyone the right to judge how or what trips someone's trigger or to say that one cannot be a good feminist if they find something like this appealing?

Sorry if this comes out garbled. It's early where I am and I wanted to catch up on FS. I'm probably not the most coherent right now, please forgive me.