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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-13 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2963 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2963 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Sometimes it's freaky how "normal" a line of thinking that is for some people... like of COURSE men only think of women in terms of sex and how bangable they are, what else would they do? It's not weird at all!

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a man, but I am a bisexual woman and when I meet people (who aren't kids or a lot younger than me obviously) it usually does cross my mind, the thought of how bangable they are.

Oops.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but fiction is all about conservation of detail -- is the bangableness relevant to the scene, or a hint at the two characters' future relationship, or an important bit of characterization? No? Then it probably shouldn't be mentioned.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I rather think that, tired or not, it is part of characterization. If POV character is thinking about how bangable various characters are, that is still characterization.
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2015-02-14 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
If it's one character who is obsessed with the bangability of everyone they meet, that could be characterization. (A reader could still decide that they don't like the character because they come off as creepy, objectifying, an easily distracted person who is a liability to the team, etc.)

If it's every character, or it takes place in the narration rather than being filtered through a character's POV, then I'd probably nope the heck out of the story. Because, yawn.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Do you do that every single time you see them, though? Meeting them, okay, she's attractive, worth noting. The next hundred times you meet her, though?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
If I think someone's sexy, like actually sexy as in they give me sexy thoughts, then yes, I'll probably think that again and again whenever I see them.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I... don't think that's normal.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
You don't think being attracted to someone is normal? Interesting, I must be a deviant.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
It is normal to be attracted to people. I don't think it's normal to have "sexy thoughts" every time you see someone you're attracted to. There's a difference between feeling attracted to someone and actively thinking "sexy thoughts" whenever you see them.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
thank you doctor, I'll try to repress my unnatural sexual thoughts from here on lol because attraction should be about holding hands, dammit!

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that is exactly what I was saying. Now that you see my point so clearly, I can go back to churning butter and accusing people of witchcraft.

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[personal profile] a_potato 2015-02-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say that depends on the type and level of attraction. If someone feels a very intense sexual attraction toward someone else, then yes, their thoughts are probably going to shift in a sexual direction when that person is around.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
well what do you mean by sexual thoughts

like i'm not constantly thinking of how I want to fuck someone I find attractive but my mental idea and representation of them does include the fact that they are sexy

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I meant constantly thinking that you want to fuck someone, having sexual fantasies about them every time you see them, imagining them in explicit sexual situations every time you see them, etc. I don't think that just noting your attraction to someone or thinking of them as sexy is an especially sexual thought.

Maybe I just misinterpreted the original anon I was referring to's comment about thinking "sexy thoughts" every time they see the person they're attracted to.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone's libido is the same tho, so there's no real "normal".

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-14 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
...what?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Okay, now you're either trolling or being deliberately dense. Having sexy thoughts about people isn't the same thing as thinking about people as sex objects every single time you see them. It's not the presence of sexual thoughts that's the problem, it's the way it seems to dominate your view of other people.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao "sex objects"? It is COMPLETELY NORMAL to be attracted to someone, and spend a lot of time admiring their finer features sexually. You're assuming ayrt somehow strips people she likes of their status as living humans purely to think about them as sex dolls - this was never said. Dominating views? Who said that? Sorry you don't have a sex drive I guess but there's nothing abnormal about being sexually attracted to someone.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm pretty sure finding people attractive is pretty normal

I think if you want to make this argument you have to make a distinction between narration and narrative detail on the one hand, and actual thought process on the other

(Anonymous) 2015-02-15 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. WTF...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
But do you honestly not see that's not the same thing? You're allowed to have sexual thoughts about people or to idly wonder sexy things about them. But that is something completely, totally, 100% different from ONLY EVER thinking of or describing a gender in terms of their fuckability factor.

Especially when it's fiction, because that's poor characterization when the story isn't all about people banging. For example, you might be reading a spy thriller where the man is described in terms of his skills, his experience as a secret agent, his drinking problem, the scar he got in 'Nam, whatever. But if the female characters are ONLY described in terms of tits and ass, that's messed up.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I think if a POV character is thinking all the women are sexy (or not sexy) that is still characterization.

Hey, I agree, sexism in character descriptions sucks. I don't believe I ever argued otherwise. All I said was that some people actually do rate people's sexiness when they meet them. That's a thing, and I don't think it's that abnormal.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think about it for every person. I mean, I come into contact with probably a hundred people a day that I don't think shit about their physical appearance. I mean, yeah, there have been times I've been uncomfortably interested in a girl's breasts when she's jogging across the street but it's not an always thing.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Tigerman isn't quite that bad, which is why I lasted most of the way through. The women have distinct personalities and motivations, and they can actually be interesting. They're just . . . bangable. According to every goddamn scene they show up in.