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⌈ Secret Post #2963 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Underbelly: Razor, linked for (live action) sex/partial nudity]

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08. [ SPOILERS for Durarara!! Light Novels ]



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09. [ SPOILERS for Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness ]



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[Banshee]


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Comments

[lb_lee]

Can someone offer context?

[(Anonymous)]

Probably Dragon Age where the Mages are stolen as children, put in 'schools' that are basic prisons, guarded night and day by state sanctioned drug addicts, can be given magical lobotomies against their will, and have no rights at all?

There are people (like the op it seems) that some how things that is all justified because a few mages might wind up to be dangerous.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but I'm not sure that interpretation is justified

It could be, for instance, that they don't think that stuff is justified but also don't view it as a serious problem of social justice and civil rights, being as it is part of a video game

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure the 'mage rights' stuff is not really serious other than thinking that in game it is a serious issue and the OP is an idiot and/or thinks it's not an issue in game. Only person that brought up social justice and civil rights was you.

[(Anonymous)]

It could be. I'm not the OP and don't know their mind. Perhaps you are right, and everyone who does not share your opinions is an idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

Well...every now and then you come across someone who draws real world parallels:

http://inquisitor-desya-lavellan.tumblr.com/post/104937365201/you-know-its-funny-the-parallels-between-mages

They seem to be in the minority, though.

[(Anonymous)]

It's actually pretty common in some circles. How much you encounter them tends to rely on how unfortunate you are in your choice of favorite characters.

I'd say "see this thread", but I think that one has to be a troll.

[were_lemur]

But there's big a difference between "there is a parallel between this fictional issue and a real world social issue" and "this fictional issue needs to be treated with just as much seriousness as something that effects real-world people."

[(Anonymous)]

Some of the Mage Rights Activists are like that. Not all, mind you.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Also, honestly, there's one anon in this thread who seems to think it's actually a serious issue and that disagreeing is like being okay with oppression IRL.

[saku]

generally those against mage rights are against full mage rights considering the gravity of magic in the DA universe and the temptation of demons/blood magic. most people who take this view don't do so because they think it's just a video game, they just think it's reasonable to be wary of magic considering the context.

[(Anonymous)]

wary does not equal rounding children up into prisons run by drug addicts and taking away their minds when they won't take abuse like a good little slave.

[saku]

dont get me wrong i am very much pro mage rights and think mage criticism as a whole is fallacious

im just saying for most of the people ive seen that are against mage freedoms it's not because they dont care about sj or whatever

[(Anonymous)]

Why would how someone feels about fictional beings in a video game have any bearing on how they feel about social justice?

[darkmanifest]

And then you have the flip side, where one mage child wasn't taken as a child to the Circle, and the result was an entire village wiped off the map by said child. Some Circles are fucked, but most people never seem to have a viable alternative that isn't "let mages do whatever because freedom".

[(Anonymous)]

huh. glad you think rounding up people you fear in camps sounds like an okay thing because some mages might do bad things and we can't trust them to control themselves and they can only be taught if we locked them away and some times take their minds!

also yes all the circles are fucked up. they kidnap children. I can't even imagine why someone might hide their mage talent kids from the scary church that wants to take away their child, possible kill them, possible take away their mind, and teach them that they are evil in the eyes of god and can never ever ever be a good person. Why would any parent not want that for their child? They get free food and education! That makes it fine.

So much of this shit sounds like the justification for interment camps and how government have stolen children and put them in 'school'.

[(Anonymous)]

Can those real life children fart fireballs?

No?

Then it isn't the same, and you goddamn well know it.

[darkmanifest]

So what's your alternative? That's my question. We agree the Circle system can be fucked, but while you're harping about that, you've yet to present a solution to dealing with dangerous mages.

Also, you cannot possibly compare mages to real-life minorities who do not each develop magical powers of mass destruction before puberty. Elves in Alienages, dwarves in Dust Town, those are equal parallels, where the only difference between them and everyone else is race or class.

[(Anonymous)]

And I'm sure the X-Men fandom has had this debate for years and years too.

[(Anonymous)]

not really, there's an easy answer to that one. and the answer is radical, violent revolution. magneto was wright.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people like to point to Hogwarts and/or Xavier's School as alternatives. Which I personally find odd because the thing common with those schools? - both are kept secret and those who go there hide their true selves from the society. Though mages going underground and pretending to be extinct could be one solution, I suppose.

[i_paint_the_sky]

I think the Circles definitely have a place when it comes to teaching how to use magic, a mage who has passed their Harrowing should be allowed a lot more freedom than is currently the case in many of the circles we see. The happiest mages (Wynne and Vivienne) were the ones who were allowed to pretty much come and go as they pleased.

Also, someone need to keep a better eye on the templars because things in Kirkwall should never have been allowed to get as bad as they did, even if it is the worst city in Thedas.

[darkmanifest]

These are basically my feelings, too, not to abolish the Circles, but to reform them from the ground up - ideally, continue to keep them independent from Chantry control, and have templars work with mages on equal grounds. During the rebellion, there's Circles that continue to function with templars for protection, without either being forced to obey the other, better than either Tevinter or Orlais's style. And I'm wondering where the hell the Seekers were while Kirkwall was being such a shitshow.

[(Anonymous)]

They went, they saw the frequency with which Kirkwall spawned blood mages and abominations, and they decided Meredith's methods were harsh but necessary. Cassandra actually says as much in one of her dialog trees, and laments that they didn't stay to look into things more deeply - it's implied to have been before Meredith got the idol, when she was still sane enough to clean things up enough to look harsh but not corrupt without some serious digging.

[(Anonymous)]

No-where does it say that they think any such thing. You are wildly projecting and a prime example of the sort of silly overreaction and ad hominem attacks on RL people irt fictional characters that contribute to "those" sort of fandoms.