[ SECRET POST #2966 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2966 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Producers]


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03.
(Tara Lipinski, figure skater)


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04.
[Without A Trace]


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05.
[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]


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06.
[Echo of the Wilds]


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07.
[Star Wars: Rebels]


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08.
[Hedwig and the Angry Inch]


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09.
(Trent Reznor)


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10.
[Sleepy Hollow]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 045 secrets from Secret Submission Post #424.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/3sq2OQy.png
[Hedwig and the Angry Inch]

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure that if you don't find parts of Hedwig and the Angry Inch problematic, someone's doing something wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

My first girlfriend made me watch this movie when I was 15. I hated it.

well, that's my story for today

[(Anonymous)]

I saw people on Tumblr whinging about NPH playing the lead role ("Trans actors for trans parts!!!"), but I haven't heard what the SJWs think about the plot.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, also, Hedwig isn't precisely trans. She's not precisely not-trans, either. The fact that her gender identity is an unresolvable ball of crazy wrapped in drag (which is its own set of complicated layers) is like half the point of the show.

[kallanda_lee]

And exactly why the tumblr crowd doesn't know what to make of it.

[mekkio]

But the creator isn't trans and he originally played the part, himself. How are tumblr whiners taking that?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - I decided to take an indefinite break from Tumblr shortly thereafter, so I couldn't tell you. :P

[(Anonymous)]

What parts are problematic and why? *is curious*

[(Anonymous)]

Never really thought about it but... love the songs.

[(Anonymous)]

A male actor playing a transwoman?

What could POSSIBLY be problematic about that?/sarcasm

[(Anonymous)]

Same anon: So apparantly the lead character is supposed to be gender fluid, not strictly a transwoman.

Well. :p

[(Anonymous)]

shouldn't the role go to who can play the part better?

[(Anonymous)]

So... Are you saying that someone pretending to be something is going to be better at portraying the thing that someone who actually is the thing?

[(Anonymous)]

Neither actor is Hedwig, so no one is the real thing. It's a matter of who's a better Hedwig, not who has more experience with having disassociation with their assigned gender role. The latter might help with being a better Hedwig, but shouldn't trump acting ability.

[(Anonymous)]

possibly, sure. If I tried out for a role playing a woman and so did a male actor, the man should get the job because I suck as an actor lol

[mekkio]

The character is also a German from former Communist East Berlin. Darn it, why is the character always being played by an American? sarcasm/Communist German actors for Communist German characters!/end sarcasm

Look, the creator (who was also the original lead actor of this play) of this play isn't transgendered either. Nor is he German or former Communist.

This "problem" of non-transgendered actors playing the role has been around since the beginning.

[(Anonymous)]

tbh in this case it probably went to the biggest box office draw

[(Anonymous)]

this was my thought as well. nph is a well-known and well-loved actor, if going by the success of his work is any indication, and certainly more well-known than a trans actor might be. not saying it is right, but if your bottom line is asses in seats/box office draw, you're going to go with well-known actor and not an unknown.

Spoilers just in case.

[kallanda_lee]

I think Hedwig IS inherently problematic for the tumblr crowd. Hell,it's arguable she's even trans, because she literally has a sex change for a man, and we see her in "boy mode" at the end. So, you actually have to ask yourself how you'd even define that. Or, perhaps, we don't need to define everything.

At the very least, it very much fucks with the whole concept of gender and what it even means (and not in the way tumbler likes).

Re: Spoilers just in case.

[(Anonymous)]

There's also the issue where Hedwig obviously was never written to be a "positive portrayal" of anything. She's a compelling character, but (moreso in the stage show than the movie) not a particularly "good" person. The show's supposed to make you think and question, and is supposed to be uncomfortable at times, and there is a vocal segment of tumblr that just does not do well with nuance.

[dahli]

Sorta unrelated but as I read the title while scrolling as "Hedwig and the Angry Bitch" and had to do a double take to realize that was not the title.

[(Anonymous)]

I've wanted to see Hedwig for a while but, now knowing that it will anger those phony social justice types, I want to see it even more!

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: screen cap of Hedwig and the Angry Inch

Text: I can’t help wondering if the SJW crowd has discovered this show (or the movie) and if so what they think

On the one hand Hedwig is arguably a canon genderqueer character

On the other hand I can’t help thinking they might find parts problematic

B!Zs: I headcanon Yitzhak as non binary but no one else seems to. I don’t want to seem like a SJ tryhard so I don’t mention it

[(Anonymous)]

I love Hedwig but I'm so tired of NPH. i honestly don't get why he's so popular, I thought he was kind of funny in Harold and Kumar but otherwise I am not a fan.