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⌈ Secret Post #2966 ⌋

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[The Producers]

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(Tara Lipinski, figure skater)

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[Without A Trace]

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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]

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[Echo of the Wilds]

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[Star Wars: Rebels]

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[Hedwig and the Angry Inch]

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(Trent Reznor)

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[Sleepy Hollow]

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A male actor playing a transwoman?

What could POSSIBLY be problematic about that?/sarcasm

Same anon: So apparantly the lead character is supposed to be gender fluid, not strictly a transwoman.

Well. :p

shouldn't the role go to who can play the part better?

So... Are you saying that someone pretending to be something is going to be better at portraying the thing that someone who actually is the thing?

Neither actor is Hedwig, so no one is the real thing. It's a matter of who's a better Hedwig, not who has more experience with having disassociation with their assigned gender role. The latter might help with being a better Hedwig, but shouldn't trump acting ability.

That argument still only makes sense if you believe there are zero trans actresses with acting ability to match Neil's.

And I love Neil but he's not that good an actor.

Did they audition though?

Did they allow them to audition? Or had they already decided they were going to use a cis man?

Not a rethorical question, I genuinely don't know. Were trans women given the chance to audition? Because usually they aren't.

DA-- or had they already decided they were going to use that particular actor? I'm not saying that's the right thing to do, but I suspect there are times when the producers or whatever have a particular name actor in mind.

Oh darling, you're cute. You actually believe show business is an equal opportunity playground. Not a business that tries to cast well known/popular actors so more people come to watch a show.

That is the point. OP was saying 'shouldn't the role go to who can play the part better?', and I was trying to get them to understand that talent had nothing to do with it.

possibly, sure. If I tried out for a role playing a woman and so did a male actor, the man should get the job because I suck as an actor lol

But acting abilities being equal, wouldn't a woman be better for playing a woman than a man?

But the part has always been played by a man, both on stage and on film. It's not like they're taking away a role that was written for a trans woman.. That doesn't mean it couldn't possibly played by one, but it wasn't written for one.

And, as has been said in this thread, it isn't even so clear-cut Hedwig is trans in the traditional sense.

Honestly the whole thing with Hedwig's gender identity is a mess. I wish people wouldn't credit it as 'trans representation'. 'Non-gender conforming represetation', maybe, but labeling it as trans representation is giving it way too much credit.

Multiple women have been cast in the role, and one run had a rotating cast.

The character is also a German from former Communist East Berlin. Darn it, why is the character always being played by an American? sarcasm/Communist German actors for Communist German characters!/end sarcasm

Look, the creator (who was also the original lead actor of this play) of this play isn't transgendered either. Nor is he German or former Communist.

This "problem" of non-transgendered actors playing the role has been around since the beginning.

Back in the 60s, the "problem" of white people painting their faces black to play black characters had also been around since the beginning. Just saying.

Oh, look at this orange. Isn't it just like this apple?

Black people were getting lynched, trans women keep getting killed... seems remarkably similar to me

da

but wouldn't this be a case where intersectionality comes in tho? I mean of course they aren't the same--what happens to black people is different from what happens to trans people-- but they are indeed similar in that they both face many of the same prejudices/dangers because of who they are, is that not what intersectionality is? not trying to stir shit/cause wank, i'm honestly confused on the issue. ]=

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(Anonymous) - 2015-02-17 01:20 (UTC) - Expand

I don't even disagree with your point and that's still not a great post

This might come as a surprise but many european people don't like the way americans usually cast americans to play europeans, specially when the actor's ethnicity doesn't fit the way people from that country look (for example casting a typical blonde, blue eyed, pale actress to play someone from a mediterranean country)

at least NHP looks like he could be german

tbh in this case it probably went to the biggest box office draw

this was my thought as well. nph is a well-known and well-loved actor, if going by the success of his work is any indication, and certainly more well-known than a trans actor might be. not saying it is right, but if your bottom line is asses in seats/box office draw, you're going to go with well-known actor and not an unknown.