[ SECRET POST #2967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2967 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm feeling like a broken record at this point, but I really feel I have to keep saying this.

The author of the damn thing doesn't think she wrote a ravishment fantasy. She doesn't even think she wrote erotica. That's part of what's disturbing.

Also, people aren't worried about the book "ruining" BDSM. They're worried about people coming into the scene expecting what's portrayed in the book, and being preyed upon as a result. And you know why they're worried about that? Because there already were people coming into the scene, not knowing what's healthy and what's not, and getting singled out and taken in by people who use BDSM as a veil for their abusive behavior. And their numbers have increased since the book came out! And on top of that, since the book came out, there has been an increase in people engaging in unsafe behavior, to the point that in my area, there has been a rise in emergency services responding to BDSM-gone-wrong.

I'm so fucking sick of people acting like it's not big deal and trotting out the "oh, people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, duh, stop patronizing people!" Someone who doesn't have a decent baseline in reality can't actually tell the difference. It's not patronizing to acknowledge that; it's just, well, reality! And you know what? Contrary to what people like to tell themselves, media DOES have an influence on us. Ever bought something because you saw an ad for it? Ever believe something that turned out to be false because you saw it on the news? We'll accept that we can be influenced in those ways, but we'll fight tooth-and-nail to delude ourselves into believing that fiction can't and never has any impact on us at all.

[(Anonymous)]

tbh, that's probably marketing

romance sounds loads more marketable than unconsensual bdsm rape fantasy

[gabzillaz]

I'm so fucking sick of people acting like it's not big deal and trotting out the "oh, people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, duh, stop patronizing people!"

Yeah, remember when the movie Jaws didn't cause mass hysteria that lead to people killing sharks left and right?

Oh wait.

People dismissing the criticism because "it's fiction!!1" are missing the point.

[siofrabunnies]

That is an embarrassingly good counterpoint. I probably am too quick to dismiss problems in the scene, because I just get sick of hearing about it. Now that I think about it when it's not super late at night, my comment looks flippant.

There's a huge difference between bdsm and vampirism, in that most people don't believe vampirism exists, and bdsm does. And abuse in the scene is so quickly dismissed in a "we're not all like that" way, which makes it easier for abusers to get away with it, which is one of the big reasons I avoid the scene. It should be about fun sex, not the constant 'fight/ignore abuse' cycle.

So, thank you. I need a jolt to my priorities, it seems.

[(Anonymous)]

very true