[ SECRET POST #2972 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2972 ⌋

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Comments

[kaijinscendre]

Why it creeps me out is that

1) I expect she grew up hearing all kinds of stories about the woman her aunt loved. I expect there are war movies about the epic romance between Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. Books, comics, t-shirts, a Funko Pop toy series. So it seems weird to want to get with the man your aunt loved dearly.

I'd be just as creeped out in real life if somebody broke up with a woman and then started dating her daughter. Regardless of whether they knew each other previously or not.

2) The thought of people encouraging Steve to go for her is just weird. "Yeah, you know that woman you loved? The woman who you still visit in the hospital? Here is her niece for you to hook up with. I mean...she is BASICALLY Peggy Carter! Just more blonde and younger. It is like Carter version 2.0! Don't mind the pictures of Peggy staring at you while you try to make out with Sharon in her living room."

[nanslice]

Thiiiiiiiis.

[ketita]

If nobody was doing the encouragement thing I'd probably be more ok with it, tbh. Having them meet accidentally/get interested in each other by chance, from a story perspective that kind of "learning to see him as who he is and not the man from the stories" and him being all conflicted about her being related to Peggy... as a getting together despite that and not because of that, I could probably get behind the ship. It's like a mine of the kind of angst I like XD
But with everybody around them cheerleading I don't like it so much.

[dreemyweird]

Yes, that'd be an interesting and thoughtful take on the problem!

[ketita]

it's also the kind of story that I doubt can be told in a 2.5 hour movie that is mostly about fighting, drama, Iron Man, and explosions.
In a 100k+ fic, however...

[lb_lee]

I didn't know this bit about Captain America. It does make me uncomfortable, how you describe it. If some people were like, "Well, yes, this merits thought and consideration," I'd probably be more all right with it.

--Miranda

[dwell_ondreams]

Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK.

I get where you're coming from but I guess I kind of feel like time travel just makes everything weird and so my brain just doesn't see it as a problem.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. Time travel can make things weird in general but I think there's a difference between Steve hooking up with a girl he has no relation to via his past life and Steve hooking up with someone who is related to someone he knew.

Neither is necessarily wrong (or right) but there's definitely more issues with the latter.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I completely understand why people have issues with it.

It's just like there's some switch in my brain that doesn't get flipped because my brain just goes "Hey, time travel is weird, okay?"

[(Anonymous)]

To me, it's weird on Sharon's end.

Steve, at this point, doesn't know about her relation to Peggy so I can see why he might be attracted to her.

It's Sharon that's the problem.

Let's say your aunt had a romance with a man in her 20s who disappeared. He's found 25 years later and re-integrates into society but your aunt has early onset Alzheimer's and is in no condition to re-ignite the romance.

Meanwhile, you would have grown up hearing stories about this man from your aunt (who deeply loved him) and given that he was a famous soldier, their love story became a bit of a cultural touchstone. You saw his face as a kid and admired him and you're clearly still close to your aunt (calling her quite often).

Now, try to imagine being attracted to the man your aunt was in love with. To me, that idea sends a shiver of revulsion through my body. I just find it creepy and pseudo-incestuous.

And that's why Steve/Sharon really squicks me the hell out.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, that's fair, but then I run into a different problem coming at things from that end, which is that people being attracted to Steve just feels like the natural state of humanity to me

like, of course she's attracted to him, he's Captain Fucking America

[(Anonymous)]

This x1000

I also can't help but find it kind of disrespectful to Peggy. As though "Welp, Steve missed out on his chance with 'the original' but he can still go for a newer model."

Plus, why the hell was a rookie agent guarding Captain FREAKING America. Yeah, if someone attacks Steve, SHARON's gonna be able to help….

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's far more disrespectful that you think of Sharon as Peggy's replacement and not, you know, her own person.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, for one, she BARELY got any characterization in The Winter Soldier, so it's difficult to think of her as a person at all. RUMLOW got more characterization, for goodness' sake.

For another, it's about how the film treats her --> given that she's appeared so little, if she gets slotted into the love interest position, then, yeah, it's pretty clear that she's being used as a replacement goldfish for Peggy.

And that's disrespectful to both characters.

I care about what it means for Peggy more because I actually, you know, care about Peggy since I've gotten to know her.

(I'm not a comics fan so I can't speak to how the relationships play out there, though).

[(Anonymous)]

"I expect she grew up hearing all kinds of stories about the woman her aunt loved"

Is this the director's cut where Peggy had hot steamy lesbian sex with genderbent Captain America? Cause I want to see it now.

[kaijinscendre]

DAMN YOU TOO MANY PRONOUNS!

yes please

[(Anonymous)]

yes please yes please yes please

[lentils]

lmao I was just like "well...Angie"

/quietly lets self out

[(Anonymous)]

Yessssss

[(Anonymous)]

Granted my only experience is the MCU and I havent seen TWS since the first time in theaters, but I don't recall anything in that canon to imply that their romance was one for the ages and full of merchandise. If anything it was short, not without hiccups and while very meaningful to them was not terribly known throughout the world. Unless Agent Carter dispels that, in which case, I withdraw that comment.

[(Anonymous)]

In Agent Carter, Peggy's pretty well known as "Cap's girl" and agents harass her by implying that she's only there because she meant something to Cap.

Sharon, being her niece, also probably heard about Steve from Peggy. At least, in The Winter Soldier, she mentions to Steve that she was on the phone with her aunt who is a bit of an insomniac. So even if the world at large didn't know how deeply they loved each other, I imagine Sharon is aware.

[tabaqui]

Good gods, this. And honestly? WTF. Why does Steve have to 'hook up' with anybody? He's two years (to him) out of a WAR in which he lost his very best friend, and now he's realized he's lost *all* his friends, and his 'best girl' and must cope with PTSD as well as a severe time dislocation....

Holy crap, the guy doesn't need anyone pushing a 'love interest' of any kind down his throat.

Also, also? Steve's super-cold and dismissive 'neighbor' to Sharon after Fury was shot, etc. - he's *pissed*. He's pissed at SHIELD for putting bugs in his house and planting an Agent as a nice, flirty neighbor to watch him. He's pissed at *her*, and even if he can talk himself down from that to 'she was just doing her job', i *really* don't think he's going to want to date her. Just - no.

[kaijinscendre]

Hell, his best girl hasn't even died. She still alive and he goes to visit her still. I can't imagine him being super into wanting to date.

I'd love it if Captain America had no romances in it. I need more gen in my life.

[ninety6tears]

For me it's mostly squicky in the "what was going through the head of the storyteller who came up with this idea?!" sense which pretty much goes along with your #2.