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⌈ Secret Post #2972 ⌋

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[fscom]

11. http://i57.tinypic.com/2nl44mx.jpg

[kaijinscendre]

Why it creeps me out is that

1) I expect she grew up hearing all kinds of stories about the woman her aunt loved. I expect there are war movies about the epic romance between Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. Books, comics, t-shirts, a Funko Pop toy series. So it seems weird to want to get with the man your aunt loved dearly.

I'd be just as creeped out in real life if somebody broke up with a woman and then started dating her daughter. Regardless of whether they knew each other previously or not.

2) The thought of people encouraging Steve to go for her is just weird. "Yeah, you know that woman you loved? The woman who you still visit in the hospital? Here is her niece for you to hook up with. I mean...she is BASICALLY Peggy Carter! Just more blonde and younger. It is like Carter version 2.0! Don't mind the pictures of Peggy staring at you while you try to make out with Sharon in her living room."

[nanslice]

Thiiiiiiiis.

[ketita]

If nobody was doing the encouragement thing I'd probably be more ok with it, tbh. Having them meet accidentally/get interested in each other by chance, from a story perspective that kind of "learning to see him as who he is and not the man from the stories" and him being all conflicted about her being related to Peggy... as a getting together despite that and not because of that, I could probably get behind the ship. It's like a mine of the kind of angst I like XD
But with everybody around them cheerleading I don't like it so much.

[dwell_ondreams]

Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK.

I get where you're coming from but I guess I kind of feel like time travel just makes everything weird and so my brain just doesn't see it as a problem.

[(Anonymous)]

This x1000

I also can't help but find it kind of disrespectful to Peggy. As though "Welp, Steve missed out on his chance with 'the original' but he can still go for a newer model."

Plus, why the hell was a rookie agent guarding Captain FREAKING America. Yeah, if someone attacks Steve, SHARON's gonna be able to help….

[(Anonymous)]

"I expect she grew up hearing all kinds of stories about the woman her aunt loved"

Is this the director's cut where Peggy had hot steamy lesbian sex with genderbent Captain America? Cause I want to see it now.

[(Anonymous)]

Yessssss

[(Anonymous)]

Granted my only experience is the MCU and I havent seen TWS since the first time in theaters, but I don't recall anything in that canon to imply that their romance was one for the ages and full of merchandise. If anything it was short, not without hiccups and while very meaningful to them was not terribly known throughout the world. Unless Agent Carter dispels that, in which case, I withdraw that comment.

[tabaqui]

Good gods, this. And honestly? WTF. Why does Steve have to 'hook up' with anybody? He's two years (to him) out of a WAR in which he lost his very best friend, and now he's realized he's lost *all* his friends, and his 'best girl' and must cope with PTSD as well as a severe time dislocation....

Holy crap, the guy doesn't need anyone pushing a 'love interest' of any kind down his throat.

Also, also? Steve's super-cold and dismissive 'neighbor' to Sharon after Fury was shot, etc. - he's *pissed*. He's pissed at SHIELD for putting bugs in his house and planting an Agent as a nice, flirty neighbor to watch him. He's pissed at *her*, and even if he can talk himself down from that to 'she was just doing her job', i *really* don't think he's going to want to date her. Just - no.

[(Anonymous)]

My main issue with that ship is that Sharon feels more like a replacement goldfish than anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

I know it's a typo, but I'm still giggling over "Well, he's Peggy's granddaughter!".

I never saw that plot twist coming. :D

[(Anonymous)]

The "he's 100 years old reason is BS."

For me, it's DEFINITELY her relation to Peggy. It's just so squicky. And that doesn't apply just to Peggy --> Sharon.

I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE (with the power of a thousand suns) fanfics that have Steve/Howard then Steve/Tony. It's creepy.

And Peggy is Sharon's aunt. Sharon also mentions being on the phone with an insomniac aunt in The Winter Soldier.

The reason it's SQUICKY as hell (on Sharon's end) is because Sharon is clearly close with Peggy (her introductory scene has her calling her after all) and she would have grown up knowing that Peggy was in love with Steve. I mean, there are old news reels of Steve with her picture in his locket. Sharon would have heard stories about Steve from Peggy and known that her aunt was in love with him.

For her to look at Steve and want to make out with the guy who was in love with her elderly aunt is SQUICKY AS HELL.

Let me put it this way: imagine being attracted to someone your aunt or mom was in love with but couldn't be with.

I don't know about you, but it creeps me the fuck out.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel I'm going to get dogpiled for this, but - is there a chance this is just the go-to excuse for those who ship Steve with Bucky or Tony or someone else? At least partly, for some people?

In which case, OP - it really doesn't have anything to do with Sharon's family ties. If it wasn't that, they'd have another reason all lined up to dislike it.

(I'm just having a similar situation in another fandom in which a pairing has just hooked-up, and those who don't like it are OUTRAGED, OUTRAGED I tell you that it involves adultery -- even though their preferred pairing is equally dodgy in many respects. You can tell they don't really care; it's just a legitimate-sounding reason to complain).

[(Anonymous)]

I don't care I mostly just can't stand that actress (and I'm still not sure if it's because she's just not that talented or because the series I know her from is so mindnumbingly drawn out and bland despite trying to be all edgy and shit).

[(Anonymous)]

The age thing doesn't bother me, the relation to Peggy does. After watching Agent Carter and seeing how crushed Peggy is about Steve's "death", it would be really gross to me to see him with anyone related to her.

If they need to put him a romance, okay, just not this one.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm amused to no end over all the "a GOOD person wouldnt be with Steve, because Peggy." As if we can help who we fall for and as if elderly aunts wouldnt want us to be happy.

[(Anonymous)]

"Hmmm, let me date this guy who really wanted to make out with my mom (or aunt or whatever). I don't find it weird at all."

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen brothers shipped together, fathers and sons, real persons who hang together, why the fuck would anyone get creeped out by a grown woman being shipped with a grown man is beyond me. Ship who you like, no shame.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like there's something telling (though I'm not quite sure what) about objections to the pairing being all about them wanting to make out/stick penises in places/etc., but as far as love and romantic feelings goes, nobody has anything to say.

Yeah, I don't find it all that squicky.

[(Anonymous)]

I have to ask to the people talking about the stories she would have heard - does your aunt share a lot of romantic details with you? I would expect she would have heard a lot more about adventures than romance, although she could have heard a lot about their romance (I guess, though from what I recall it was just a handful of moments).

I do kind of feel like it's the sort of wrong like when a woman dates the guy her sister was in love with. Not cool and not nice, but not really squicky, to me anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

I just imagine this scenario: I'm ripped out of time and end up in the future where my boyfriend not only has moved on but is now old and dying. I'm totally heartbroken but hey, here's a hot guy! Then I find out he's my dying love's nephew...

Would *you* be into that? I feel like on an individual basis it could happen but these are characters in a story. I'd be very uncomfortable reading that story.

[(Anonymous)]

Kinda on topic, but I really hated the 'push Steve into romance!' subplot.

Like... let the guy get his footing in the modern world. Dating can fucking wait compared to the shit he's been through.

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: Steve Rogers and Sharon Carter

Text: I don’t even get why people are so quick to call them squicky. Some say it’s ‘cause he’s old, but it’s not like he’s Edward Cullen with 100 years life experience falling for a teen. Steve went to “sleep” one age and woke up that age.

70 years later.