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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-26 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2976 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2976 ⌋

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[NCIS: Los Angeles/Hawaii Five-0]


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[Left Shark (Katy Perry? Super Bowl?) and Bad-Dragon .com]


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otakugal15: (Default)

[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-02-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
So...you are equating a romantic relationship without sex as only platonic? WOW.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's a persistent troll that's come up before. Please don't feed it

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Platonic is the opposite of sexual. Not the opposite of romantic. Romance is a byproduct of sexuality and romantic is the adjective for that byproduct. Sorry if snowflakes don't like being told they're snowflakes.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-02-27 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yawn

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
What an insightful reply.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-27 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean do you actually want to argue about it? You don't sound very open to discourse.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? Because I used words you don't like? If I weren't open to discourse, I would have dropped a one-word bomb and left.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-03-02 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
No, because you used condescending and dismissive language heavily implying you think people who don't agree with you are beneath you.

What you said was basically the equivalent of a 30-word bomb, not an actual argument.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless by "open to discourse" you mean "ready to be proved wrong by your rightness" and not "let's talk about that." And given your own language of "argue" it doesn't seem like you actually want to talk and share viewpoints, but you just want to fight.

Because you're right, and I'm wrong, right? Well, no, I'm not terribly interested in that.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-03-02 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Are you the same anon as above?

IF so, I'm not sure whether or not to take you seriously; your words are so much more hostile than mine.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
this. Romance requires sexual attraction, or I don't see how it's romance.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice circular logic, there.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-02-28 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe there's attraction, but no sex enacted.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
um, yes

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
A romantic relationship implies some level of physical attraction. That doesn't necessarily translate to having sex, because there are plenty of people who are in romantic relationships but either can't or don't want to have sex for whatever reason. For example, my friend is asexual and in a relationship. She and her girlfriend don't have sex, but she still feels attraction towards her girlfriend and they express it in other physical ways.

Feeling strongly for someone but not having any sort of physical attraction to them is just a close friendship. Attraction is how we define the difference between a platonic relationship and a romantic one.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
A romantic relationship implies some level of physical attraction.

Bullshit. There's no one set "official" definition of what romance is (other than a loop with romantic, where they just circle back to each other without either giving an actual definition), and the only words I can find associated with it are love and affection, neither of which necessarily implies sexual attraction. People always seem to have a difficult time pinpointing exactly what it is, just that they know it when they feel it, and when people DO come up with some sort of definition, they almost never agree with each other.

That doesn't necessarily translate to having sex, because there are plenty of people who are in romantic relationships but either can't or don't want to have sex for whatever reason. For example, my friend is asexual and in a relationship. She and her girlfriend don't have sex, but she still feels attraction towards her girlfriend and they express it in other physical ways.

People who "can't or don't want to have sex for whatever reason" aren't necessarily asexual. "Does not experience sexual attraction" is the DEFINITION of asexual. If someone DOES experience sexual attraction but doesn't want to have sex for some other reason, they're not asexual, they're celibate.

Feeling strongly for someone but not having any sort of physical attraction to them is just a close friendship. Attraction is how we define the difference between a platonic relationship and a romantic one.

"Physical attraction" is a pretty vague term and just "attraction" could be anything, but you can be attracted to someone's looks and it not be sexual at all. Aesthetic attraction is a thing...you can think someone is nice to look at but not be sexually attracted to them, the same way you can think a painting is nice to look at but not be sexually attracted to it. Or, the same way a straight person can acknowledge someone of the same sex is good-looking but not be sexually attracted to them. So I'm not sure what you're referring to with "attraction is how we define the difference between a platonic relationship and a romantic one" since you didn't specify what type of attraction you're talking about.

Either way, romance does not have to include sexual attraction for everybody. Obviously for you it does, and that's totally valid, but you can't just say THIS IS HOW IT IS when your experience doesn't apply to everybody.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
you do realize that it's possible to be physically attracted to someone without being sexually attracted to them, right? that's the case for a lot of people who are asexual. they can find someone attractive and want to engage in physically intimate activities like kissing, touching and cuddling, they just don't have a sexual desire or want to engage in sex. their attraction is not sexual, but there is still attraction there.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, this, 100%.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-27 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Except not.